This site is loaded with engines
Please report them when you encounter them.
would be nice if there's an auto bot that would recognize it during play.
You've basically only played bullet games anyway... it's very unlikely you've ever played against an engine.
wait, how does one even cheat in bullet? Is that possible?
Not only possible, 100% doable
Laughable, PLEASE REPORT THEM...
The site inserts engines to play, by default, it isn't so you don't wait, it's because they sell game data...
Ever wonder why there is no one on the other side of the board, why the playing strength is always the same (despite rating) and why you see the same lines all the time...
They won't let you use an engine (on the record, but they really can't stop it), pity, they have everything, but a fair shake...
The site inserts engines to play, by default, it isn't so you don't wait, it's because they sell game data...
Ever wonder why there is no one on the other side of the board, why the playing strength is always the same (despite rating) and why you see the same lines all the time...
They won't let you use an engine (on the record, but they really can't stop it), pity, they have everything, but a fair shake...
Honestly, if Lichess has a chess engine that is good enough to accurately fake an arbitrary rating, I would be really impressed. Making an engine that actually feels like a poor human player is a very hard problem.... much harder than making a strong engine.
@#1
That is not true, while there are some cheaters on any chess site, lichess has sophisticated analysis software to quickly ban them, sometimes without a report, sometimes while the game they cheat in is still ongoing.
Note that a strong player can be difficult to distinguish from an engine by someone soundly routed, so strong players playing well are often wrongfully suspected of cheating.
If you can tell for sure that someone is cheating, the cheat detection system probably can as well, find the games that they cheat on and report them.
@#6
It is indeed possible to cheat in a bullet game by using an add-on that reads the board and moves the mouse to enter moves automatically. However this kind of cheating is generally very easy to detect.
@#7
I assume that is sarcasm. :D
P.S. (edited to add):
The cheat detection system includes both computerized statistical analysis and manual inspection of game data, including the move times, so all the information that can lead you to suspect cheating during the game is also available to the software and moderators analyzing the games.
That is not true, while there are some cheaters on any chess site, lichess has sophisticated analysis software to quickly ban them, sometimes without a report, sometimes while the game they cheat in is still ongoing.
Note that a strong player can be difficult to distinguish from an engine by someone soundly routed, so strong players playing well are often wrongfully suspected of cheating.
If you can tell for sure that someone is cheating, the cheat detection system probably can as well, find the games that they cheat on and report them.
@#6
It is indeed possible to cheat in a bullet game by using an add-on that reads the board and moves the mouse to enter moves automatically. However this kind of cheating is generally very easy to detect.
@#7
I assume that is sarcasm. :D
P.S. (edited to add):
The cheat detection system includes both computerized statistical analysis and manual inspection of game data, including the move times, so all the information that can lead you to suspect cheating during the game is also available to the software and moderators analyzing the games.
@Wyatt_Earp I have 3 simple questions for you:
You said: "This site is loaded with engines."
1. How many times have you used an engine to prove your theory?
2. How many people have your viral and contagious suspicions helped encourage to use engines to prove the suspicion of "this site is loaded with engines"?
3. From Lichess' standpoint, what should be done about posts like yours and people like you, that damage the environment, insult Lichess' efforts, and tell bald-faced lies in order to undermine the confidence, commitment, and loyalty of Lichess members?
-
If you want to help, report people that you suspect of cheating.
If you want to help, open a thread about how someone was banned only a few minutes after reporting them, not once, not twice, not thrice, but regularly, as has been the experience for myself, and those like me.
No, you're obviously not here to help.
Yes, you're obviously here to hurt.
Yes, you should be treated exactly as such.
You said: "This site is loaded with engines."
1. How many times have you used an engine to prove your theory?
2. How many people have your viral and contagious suspicions helped encourage to use engines to prove the suspicion of "this site is loaded with engines"?
3. From Lichess' standpoint, what should be done about posts like yours and people like you, that damage the environment, insult Lichess' efforts, and tell bald-faced lies in order to undermine the confidence, commitment, and loyalty of Lichess members?
-
If you want to help, report people that you suspect of cheating.
If you want to help, open a thread about how someone was banned only a few minutes after reporting them, not once, not twice, not thrice, but regularly, as has been the experience for myself, and those like me.
No, you're obviously not here to help.
Yes, you're obviously here to hurt.
Yes, you should be treated exactly as such.
This topic has been archived and can no longer be replied to.