anonymous games are recorded. in fact you can send yourself a link of an anonymous game to inspect later and just like any lichess game with an account you can analyse it or even put it in a study. Its just that the two players have no account name displayed. They are anonymous.
@taco_fischer said in #1:
> Hello. I'm 100% not interested in playing with an account so I have been playing anonymous games in the last year and my win rate is close to 0%, taking in account the first/second game in a row, which usually is very stupid boring and easy game. Otherwise it's just 0%.
>
> Clearly many (if not most or all) of those players are cheating, for example it's easy to notice when the other player is very weak and struggles a lot not to loose major pieces, and as soon as I'am completelly winning, my opponent enters in godlike mode and of course, the engine rapes me very easily.
>
> But even if they are just stronger players trolling for some reasons (24hs/day?) I believe the anonymous arena has something like a hidden ELO, because the first game when I start playing is usually very easy and as soon as I win it (sometimes the first two), it doesn't matter how long I continue to play, I get completely destroyed on every single game (which starts to be very boring when I reach game five or ten..). So the question is, why lichess keeps pairing me exclusivelly with cheaters and/or strong players? I'm not a strong player and I'm not interested in analysing my games or anything like that, otherwise I'll just use an engine...
Hmm... its just that no account no rating if you use an engine you will get banned if without an account no. you are telling that 0% rating right .
> Hello. I'm 100% not interested in playing with an account so I have been playing anonymous games in the last year and my win rate is close to 0%, taking in account the first/second game in a row, which usually is very stupid boring and easy game. Otherwise it's just 0%.
>
> Clearly many (if not most or all) of those players are cheating, for example it's easy to notice when the other player is very weak and struggles a lot not to loose major pieces, and as soon as I'am completelly winning, my opponent enters in godlike mode and of course, the engine rapes me very easily.
>
> But even if they are just stronger players trolling for some reasons (24hs/day?) I believe the anonymous arena has something like a hidden ELO, because the first game when I start playing is usually very easy and as soon as I win it (sometimes the first two), it doesn't matter how long I continue to play, I get completely destroyed on every single game (which starts to be very boring when I reach game five or ten..). So the question is, why lichess keeps pairing me exclusivelly with cheaters and/or strong players? I'm not a strong player and I'm not interested in analysing my games or anything like that, otherwise I'll just use an engine...
Hmm... its just that no account no rating if you use an engine you will get banned if without an account no. you are telling that 0% rating right .
@benwerner said in #4:
> If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously. I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.
>
> And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.
>
> As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue.
he is right use your account.
> If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously. I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.
>
> And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.
>
> As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue.
he is right use your account.
I'll create a blog/article about it.
@taco_fischer said in #5:
> Stopping cheaters there shouldn't be easy or possible. But the pairing algorithm seems to think that because I can beat a kid learning the basics, I can play (exclusively) against far stronger players (with or without engines) which is absolutely not the case.
>
> I'm sorry but as a general rule I don't use any website or services which keeps any kind of information associated with me, the only exceptions are indispensable and the information is not public. A solution to the cheaters playing anonimously could be to allow anonymous play with accounts (hidden names, no recorded activity except statistics -not games or dates- needed to detect cheaters..).
>If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously. I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.
>
>And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.
>
>As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue.
> Stopping cheaters there shouldn't be easy or possible. But the pairing algorithm seems to think that because I can beat a kid learning the basics, I can play (exclusively) against far stronger players (with or without engines) which is absolutely not the case.
>
> I'm sorry but as a general rule I don't use any website or services which keeps any kind of information associated with me, the only exceptions are indispensable and the information is not public. A solution to the cheaters playing anonimously could be to allow anonymous play with accounts (hidden names, no recorded activity except statistics -not games or dates- needed to detect cheaters..).
>If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously. I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.
>
>And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.
>
>As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue.
this is an awnser to the Q
If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously. I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating. I don't think so the players are cheating but lichess sees everything so ask lichess by contacting. And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt. I really doubt it. As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. just use your account its worthless to play without an account.
When there's no point in playing anonymous and when it's just harmful, might wonder why it still exists in the first place
I guess it's still useful for a quick game vs a friend that doesn't have an account or doesn't have their login info handy. Or for some random playing around to try stuff out. Certainly don't understand why anybody would try to play normal games in the pool where you don't even have a rating or anything. I really doubt it. As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. just use your account its worthless to play without an account. just don't play anonymously.I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. in fact you can send yourself a link of an anonymous game to inspect later. And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously.When there's no point in playing anonymous and when it's just harmful, might wonder why it still exists in the first place
I guess it's still useful for a quick game vs a friend that doesn't have an account or doesn't have their login info handy. Or for some random playing around to try stuff out. Certainly don't understand why anybody would try to play normal games in the pool where you don't even have a rating or anything. I really doubt it. As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. just use your account its worthless to play without an account. just don't play anonymously.I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. in fact you can send yourself a link of an anonymous game to inspect later. And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously.
I guess it's still useful for a quick game vs a friend that doesn't have an account or doesn't have their login info handy. Or for some random playing around to try stuff out. Certainly don't understand why anybody would try to play normal games in the pool where you don't even have a rating or anything. I really doubt it. As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. just use your account its worthless to play without an account. just don't play anonymously.I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. in fact you can send yourself a link of an anonymous game to inspect later. And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously.When there's no point in playing anonymous and when it's just harmful, might wonder why it still exists in the first place
I guess it's still useful for a quick game vs a friend that doesn't have an account or doesn't have their login info handy. Or for some random playing around to try stuff out. Certainly don't understand why anybody would try to play normal games in the pool where you don't even have a rating or anything. I really doubt it. As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. just use your account its worthless to play without an account. just don't play anonymously.I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. in fact you can send yourself a link of an anonymous game to inspect later. And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously.
@ChessFighter9 said in #58:
> When there's no point in playing anonymous and when it's just harmful, might wonder why it still exists in the first place
> I guess it's still useful for a quick game vs a friend that doesn't have an account or doesn't have their login info handy. Or for some random playing around to try stuff out. Certainly don't understand why anybody would try to play normal games in the pool where you don't even have a rating or anything. I really doubt it. As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. just use your account its worthless to play without an account. just don't play anonymously.I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. in fact you can send yourself a link of an anonymous game to inspect later. And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously.When there's no point in playing anonymous and when it's just harmful, might wonder why it still exists in the first place
> I guess it's still useful for a quick game vs a friend that doesn't have an account or doesn't have their login info handy. Or for some random playing around to try stuff out. Certainly don't understand why anybody would try to play normal games in the pool where you don't even have a rating or anything. I really doubt it. As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. just use your account its worthless to play without an account. just don't play anonymously.I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. in fact you can send yourself a link of an anonymous game to inspect later. And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously.
yep i guess i am right.
> When there's no point in playing anonymous and when it's just harmful, might wonder why it still exists in the first place
> I guess it's still useful for a quick game vs a friend that doesn't have an account or doesn't have their login info handy. Or for some random playing around to try stuff out. Certainly don't understand why anybody would try to play normal games in the pool where you don't even have a rating or anything. I really doubt it. As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. just use your account its worthless to play without an account. just don't play anonymously.I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. in fact you can send yourself a link of an anonymous game to inspect later. And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously.When there's no point in playing anonymous and when it's just harmful, might wonder why it still exists in the first place
> I guess it's still useful for a quick game vs a friend that doesn't have an account or doesn't have their login info handy. Or for some random playing around to try stuff out. Certainly don't understand why anybody would try to play normal games in the pool where you don't even have a rating or anything. I really doubt it. As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. just use your account its worthless to play without an account. just don't play anonymously.I can't really judge it but I really wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of anonymous players were cheating.As far as I can see, there's really no reason not to play on your account which completely avoids this issue. in fact you can send yourself a link of an anonymous game to inspect later. And stopping that is certainly not worth the huge moderation effort. If it's even possible in the first place which I doubt.If you don't want to play against cheaters, just don't play anonymously.
yep i guess i am right.
I play anon from time to time, and very rarely get cheat suspicion. The vast majority of anon games are legit.
Without a rating, you get random opponents. So if your skill is below average, you will lose a lot.
That's the problem that rating solves.
Of course Thibault you are 100% right
Without a rating, you get random opponents. So if your skill is below average, you will lose a lot.
That's the problem that rating solves.
Of course Thibault you are 100% right
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