@Decaffeinated said in #13:
> Wait, are all you guys here hyper-capitalists?
What is that question supposed to mean? Are you suggesting (as the hardcore MAGA dumbfucks like to do) that anyone who opposes the orange clown must be a damn commie?
But to relieve your burning need to know if you are dealing with the red wave here: I prefer capitalism and free trade.
> Barriers to trade protect local industry and help local employment rates dramatically.
This is a very simplistic view. In most cases it stifles efficiency and endorses high prices for shitty products. Producers are encouraged to do nothing, to not invest in research and development and in bettering their products. They can sell their crap and just cash in because they don't need to compete with the world.
> I can't imagine where Korea would be right now if we didn't have a wide variety of tariffs on agricultural products that helps us to maintain the agrarian sector oft he economy as well as fishing.
1) South Korea would be nowhere if Western countries slapped high tariffs on, say, electronics or ships during the second half of the 20th century. That's where South Korea earned a lot of money and became a strong economy, by selling these products to Europe and America. Not with agricultural products.
2) Agriculture is kind of a special branch because a lot of countries are protecting their farmers with tariffs. Not only South Korea but also the EU and other countries.
> Moreover, even successful mega-corporations are dependent on these sorts of tariffs because they help generate greater profits at home that enable being more competitive abroad...
Simply not true. If a company is, as you say, a mega corporation it will be much more dependent on sales abroad than on domestic sales. If their domestic market is protected by tariffs and the other countries react with tariffs themselves then this will hurt the company, not benefit it.
> it also will help resolve crazy stuff, like how the United States is a net exporters of petrol, but still imports millions and millions of barrels of oil today from Canada & Mexico. It doesn't really make sense to not use oil domestically, while it makes all the sense in the world to apply pressure to Mexico & Canada to help in securing the border.
What exactly is so crazy about it? Americans are selling cars to the world but they are also buying cars from the world. Every business and every consumer makes his own decisions what to buy, where to buy and for which price. If you want to centralize the decision who has to buy from whome then go and live in a socialist or a communist country.
> Wait, are all you guys here hyper-capitalists?
What is that question supposed to mean? Are you suggesting (as the hardcore MAGA dumbfucks like to do) that anyone who opposes the orange clown must be a damn commie?
But to relieve your burning need to know if you are dealing with the red wave here: I prefer capitalism and free trade.
> Barriers to trade protect local industry and help local employment rates dramatically.
This is a very simplistic view. In most cases it stifles efficiency and endorses high prices for shitty products. Producers are encouraged to do nothing, to not invest in research and development and in bettering their products. They can sell their crap and just cash in because they don't need to compete with the world.
> I can't imagine where Korea would be right now if we didn't have a wide variety of tariffs on agricultural products that helps us to maintain the agrarian sector oft he economy as well as fishing.
1) South Korea would be nowhere if Western countries slapped high tariffs on, say, electronics or ships during the second half of the 20th century. That's where South Korea earned a lot of money and became a strong economy, by selling these products to Europe and America. Not with agricultural products.
2) Agriculture is kind of a special branch because a lot of countries are protecting their farmers with tariffs. Not only South Korea but also the EU and other countries.
> Moreover, even successful mega-corporations are dependent on these sorts of tariffs because they help generate greater profits at home that enable being more competitive abroad...
Simply not true. If a company is, as you say, a mega corporation it will be much more dependent on sales abroad than on domestic sales. If their domestic market is protected by tariffs and the other countries react with tariffs themselves then this will hurt the company, not benefit it.
> it also will help resolve crazy stuff, like how the United States is a net exporters of petrol, but still imports millions and millions of barrels of oil today from Canada & Mexico. It doesn't really make sense to not use oil domestically, while it makes all the sense in the world to apply pressure to Mexico & Canada to help in securing the border.
What exactly is so crazy about it? Americans are selling cars to the world but they are also buying cars from the world. Every business and every consumer makes his own decisions what to buy, where to buy and for which price. If you want to centralize the decision who has to buy from whome then go and live in a socialist or a communist country.
