People have takebacks enabled but don't grant them when it's an obvious and acknowledge error(even by them). If they ever request takebacks they are cheating imo given this behavior. I was I formed that I was in the wrong by lichess for stating such. Asking for takebacks and not granting them should not that allowed especially in known misclick situations. Users gain rating for being dishonest.. What are your thoughts?
IDK
My thoughts are take backs in rated games are ridiculous and should not be a thing. The entire point of the game is to capitalize on your opponents mistakes, not give them a free pass to make said mistakes consequence free.
If two players want to be ridiculous and have the option for take backs on during a rated game, neither one is obligated to give if received or vice versa.
If two players want to be ridiculous and have the option for take backs on during a rated game, neither one is obligated to give if received or vice versa.
Though perhaps Machiavellian to a degree, this behavior is by no means cheating; accepting takebacks because you want the game to be as "pure" as possible is fine, but your opponent has no obligation to possess the same philosophy.
What about obvious misclicks?
yep, there's an option to only allow takebacks in unrated games. suits me fine
#1: You Are Saying That Users Who Ask For Take-Backs And Don't Give Them Are "Dishonest"?
If So, I Disagree.
In-my-opinion:
If you give your opponent a Take-back, AKA, Do them a favour, while expecting that they will return the favour, then you are the one who is being dishonest.
True-kindness is when nothing is expected in return.
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#3: Some People Consider Mouse-Slips To Not Be "Mistakes" But Something Unrelated To Chess Caused By Playing Online.
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#5: http://bitly.ws/g2BI.
If So, I Disagree.
In-my-opinion:
If you give your opponent a Take-back, AKA, Do them a favour, while expecting that they will return the favour, then you are the one who is being dishonest.
True-kindness is when nothing is expected in return.
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#3: Some People Consider Mouse-Slips To Not Be "Mistakes" But Something Unrelated To Chess Caused By Playing Online.
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#5: http://bitly.ws/g2BI.
@Shadow1414 said in #7:
> #3: Some People Consider Mouse-Slips To Not Be "Mistakes" But Something Unrelated To Chess Caused By Playing Online.
Some people are wrong.
Every player is responsible for the accuracy of their moves. If they cannot take the time to make sure that their piece is on the right square, then they deserve to lose. Before you ask, yes the same goes for me when I mouse slip.
> #3: Some People Consider Mouse-Slips To Not Be "Mistakes" But Something Unrelated To Chess Caused By Playing Online.
Some people are wrong.
Every player is responsible for the accuracy of their moves. If they cannot take the time to make sure that their piece is on the right square, then they deserve to lose. Before you ask, yes the same goes for me when I mouse slip.
@Mesobad666 said in #5:
> What about obvious misclicks?
Well technically it’s their fault they made the misclickw. It’s optional to accept it or not.
> What about obvious misclicks?
Well technically it’s their fault they made the misclickw. It’s optional to accept it or not.
I can empathize
but "dishonest" is not the right word, in this case its more about the "lack of sportsmanship"
or lack of empathy
if you ask for a favor, you should make sure to return it, especially when specifically asked reasonably
But what I said was just an ideology
you have to accept the reality that everyone has different values
its a good thing that you have kindness in your heart
but don't be discouraged by people that don't share your values :)
sometimes you have to lower your expectations
You can't just say some people are wrong because they don't share your values
being too optimistic can be unhealthy
many people have been damaged from experiences such as this, but please don't antagonize them :)
but "dishonest" is not the right word, in this case its more about the "lack of sportsmanship"
or lack of empathy
if you ask for a favor, you should make sure to return it, especially when specifically asked reasonably
But what I said was just an ideology
you have to accept the reality that everyone has different values
its a good thing that you have kindness in your heart
but don't be discouraged by people that don't share your values :)
sometimes you have to lower your expectations
You can't just say some people are wrong because they don't share your values
being too optimistic can be unhealthy
many people have been damaged from experiences such as this, but please don't antagonize them :)
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