Just happened to me and it's really frustrating. Happened at move 11... I have a study where I have all modern openings I'm studing and was working on adding lines to that study and got the correspondance game ended with cheat detected.
I never cheated so this is very offensive.
Can I talk to someone of lichess about this? Or it's a close deal and bye bye experience.
Is it so hard to understand? Either you play chess or (XOR!) you analyze chess.
If you don’t know now you know.
#21 I can understand why that's frustrating, since on other chess sites there are different correspondence chess rules (and that Lichess' rules make it difficult to analyze like you intend to do; and I'm not judging the rules, just trying to explain).
There is no further penalty once such a game is forfeited in this manner (as long as you're not repeatedly doing it in such a way which infracts some other rule in the
lichess.org/terms-of-service ).
#22++. Threads like this are worth reading after all.
Thanks for your feedback. I was not playing my analysis of the game, but a line in an opening I'm studing, that happens to be the same of the game I was playing with a friend.
I never move the pieces in a correspondance online game (not even the analysis button that shows on the game - this was my second correspondance game online here), because I also share the view that we learn and enjoy more without doing that. Also many times it's great when the game ends to go over it and look at all variations that could have happened, but we haven't tested during the game.
I am again playing the same line with my friend in a new game and will try to avoid having this problem arise again (although it's kind of strange having to avoid studies in the same opening while the game is open (10 days per move...) . One possible solution will be to not play correspondance games or do it in another chess provider.
I can come up with another possible solution. Maybe you shouldn't analyze the exact same line that you are currently playing in a game.
I was analyzing that same opening some days before the game starts. It's a correspondance game, so it can take a long time (10 days/move) and it was not previewed he was going to play one of the variations that were in my study. I am writing the studies while I read books to understand them better. I search games etc. My aim is just to have fun and improve and never thought this conflict of interests would affect the game. Now I know how lichess works but also wanted to add to this topic my view about it. I'm playing the same line now, so I can't open my study while the game lasts even if it has more openings, to avoid the risk of being called cheater and lose the game. Got it and again thanks for your feedback.
Ok. It is important to practice calculations in ones head: Chess is about seeing the moves in ones head and determining the appropriate response. You will get much better in chess by just playing games and instead of using another board to look at variations, you try to visualize them in your head... The harder the work, the greater the reward. I feel like all the questions have been answered. Maybe it is time to close the thread.
I think much of this could be solved by having some sort of "safety switch" which would trigger in cases where using computer analysis would cause you to forfeit a game.
A solution might be setting engine analysis in the analysis page to be off by default when you open that window while still playing a game. If the user tries to turn analysis on, a little popup could tell you "Are you sure you want to turn analysis on? You will forfeit game [so-and-so]."
#29 I think the dilemma here is wanting to fully satisfy:
* Ease of use: make it easy to use engine analysis when studying for future games
* Security: guarantee that players who cheat are detected
I don't think there is a good solution since players will find sneaky ways to circumvent any prompt (this doesn't even require any technical knowledge).
