People who refuse to resign

@DigitalDestruction said in #38:
> @magicsacrifblunder Again: Fine, but the overwhelming majority of us will continue to not play due to this. To a normal, reasonable person it's infuriating to watch someone be that stubborn.

I agree, people who refuse to draw in a clearly drawn position are also very annoying. Looks like they're so determined to waste another human being's time for their ego.

@DigitalDestruction People are ENTITLED to play to the end. If that’s too much for you to handle, understand or accept, you should try your hand at something else. Resigning is ‘discretionary’. Look up the word. If there’s anyone making the game terribly unpopular, look in the mirror.

@DigitalDestruction said in #38:
> @magicsacrifblunder Again: Fine, but the overwhelming majority of us will continue to not play due to this. To a normal, reasonable person it's infuriating to watch someone be that stubborn.

If you decide not to play it is up to you. But you can not force anybody to resign. It is their decision. What we can do, it is follow the rules, and bring the win home, if you are so sure.

And still if i am playing magnus, i would not resign easily, knowing that he would crush me completely in the game.

Follow the rules, if they do not resign win the game, checkmate them. Done.

@magicsacrifblunder said in #43:
> If you decide not to play it is up to you. But you can not force anybody to resign. It is their decision. What we can do, it is follow the rules, and bring the win home, if you are so sure.
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> And still if i am playing magnus, i would not resign easily, knowing that he would crush me completely in the game.
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> Follow the rules, if they do not resign win the game, checkmate them. Done.

I clearly just don't get the same level of satisfaction out of winning that my opponents do.

@OSpengler said in #39:
> According to the rules, they don't have to resign. However, I do agree that people who refuse to resign in clearly lost positions probably suffer from the psychological bias of loss aversion.

Not resigning or not drawing, is a excellent way to improve your skills on defence and counter attacks, without to count the improvement on calculation.

So, if you are sure that you win, win the game, dont wait for a resignation.

@magicsacrifblunder said in #45:
> Not resigning or not drawing, is a excellent way to improve your skills on defence and counter attacks, without to count the improvement on calculation.
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> So, if you are sure that you win, win the game, dont wait for a resignation.

I'm sure of that and I never disagreed to that point. I was just pointing out the irrationality of potential loss aversion, which has been researched by numerous psychologists and economists. I believe that chess, as a game between human players, are also heavily affected by psychological factors such as biases and heuristics.

@DigitalDestruction said in #44:
> I clearly just don't get the same level of satisfaction out of winning that my opponents do.

Sorry but with that we can not help you. I, imho, find very interesting a game against somebody who refuses to give up, because it means he is still fighting, and i need still to bring my best game out. And not giving up is a signal of strength for me. Not giving up - life; giving up - you are „dead“

Besides, not resigning, like i said in the post before, you are developing defence, counter attacks and calculation through going till the end of the game. And the winning side, the same. So, enjoy the improvement you get from it.

And if you are so strong, i can not understand, why you can not checkmate them.

@DigitalDestruction said in #36:
> It's playing on in a losing position, as if winning would even mean anything anyway, that is arrogant. It's a board game. No reason to waste people's time and make it terribly unpopular.

Do you have any evidence that prolonging a lost game contributes to less interest in chess among chess players? Or is it just causing you to lose interest in the game and you're assuming everyone feels the same as you?

Chess has seen a surge of interest in the U.S. since the beginning of the pandemic, with chess.com reporting a 66% increase in players in October 2020. Sales of chess sets and books have gone up significantly. I hardly think playing the occasional "never resigner" is going to cause people to quit chess en masse.

/scratches head: This game isn't experiencing a "surge" in popularity here in America. Where do you guys get this stuff from? lol

Nobody even mentions Chess here in America. Ever.

Ever see it on TV? Nope? It's because nobody cares. If they did, it would lead to revenue.

@OSpengler said in #41:
> I agree, people who refuse to draw in a clearly drawn position are also very annoying. Looks like they're so determined to waste another human being's time for their ego.

@OSpengler said in #46:
> I'm sure of that and I never disagreed to that point. I was just pointing out the irrationality of potential loss aversion, which has been researched by numerous psychologists and economists. I believe that chess, as a game between human players, are also heavily affected by psychological factors such as biases and heuristics.

Ok. Sorry. Maybe i misinterpreted your posts.