Are We Tiktokificating Chess?

@chessfan124 said in #8:
> tictokification of the article:
> The chess boom on social media is leading to shorter time controls and content for more views. But is "tiktokification" diluting the core values of the game? Read on for more.
>
> Bruh, this article is totally off. TikTok and YouTube Shorts aren't ruining chess - they're just adapting it for a new audience. Plus, who says shorter time controls mean less strategy? It just means faster-paced action. And don't even get me started on the whole "losing tradition" argument. Chess can evolve and still maintain its sportsmanship and fair play. IMO, we should support all types of chess events, whether it's classical or blitz. It's all about having fun and promoting the game.

I appreciate your perspective, and I agree that TikToks and Shorts aren't necessarily ruining chess. My concern is that the pursuit of views and growth might compromise the depth of the game. While it's great to use TikToks and Shorts to get people interest in chess, I believe the overall trend is shifting away from showcasing the richness of chess to focus on entertainment.

@SayChessClassical said in #11:
> I believe the overall trend is shifting away from showcasing the richness of chess to focus on entertainment.

That's why it's social media... It's for entertainment... Have you looked at football shorts or tiktoks?... Basketball?... Tennis?... Have they ruined their sports? no!... Have they made them more entertaining? Certainly!... Is it stopping people from watching actual 90minutes or full game matches? Obviously not!...
This is just a far cry for something that has no issue....

@king-Monti said in #12:
> That's why it's social media... It's for entertainment... Have you looked at football shorts or tiktoks?... Basketball?... Tennis?... Have they ruined their sports? no!... Have they made them more entertaining? Certainly!... Is it stopping people from watching actual 90minutes or full game matches? Obviously not!...
> This is just a far cry for something that has no issue....

True, but when you readjust the tournaments to fit into the trends from Social Media it starts to become an issue

@chessfan124 said in #8:
> tictokification of the article:
> The chess boom on social media is leading to shorter time controls and content for more views. But is "tiktokification" diluting the core values of the game? Read on for more.
>
> Bruh, this article is totally off. TikTok and YouTube Shorts aren't ruining chess - they're just adapting it for a new audience. Plus, who says shorter time controls mean less strategy? It just means faster-paced action. And don't even get me started on the whole "losing tradition" argument. Chess can evolve and still maintain its sportsmanship and fair play. IMO, we should support all types of chess events, whether it's classical or blitz. It's all about having fun and promoting the game.
Well, you cant become a master until you play classical chess.

Social media sometimes glosses over the fact that chess is a game that requires a lot of practice, routine and calculation. Chess is about pattern recognition. Grandmasters can play a reasonable game of chess in the bullet because they are fantastic at classical chess. I'm not sure how many viewers from the streams we will ever see at a chess board.

@SayChessClassical said in #13:
> True, but when you readjust the tournaments to fit into the trends from Social Media it starts to become an issue

You're wrong here too... No tournament was "readjusted"... They're new tournaments and are created that way... All of the classical events still exist... Imagine playing in a FIFA 21 football tournament ( yes the game ) and sitting through 90 minutes behind a screen ... Hilarious isn't it?.. now why will I do the same for chess when it's online.. let me ask you.. how many classical games have you played on lichess this month?...
The key is accessibility and the internet has done that for us... I'm in Nigeria.. chess here is like the low of the lows OTB tournaments are hardly held especially for the Eastern region where I'm in... So how will we get a knack for some competitive chess?... Online..!... We hold some online tournaments although not regularly.. but at least we can play and have fun... I cannot imagine myself sitting behind a computer to play one chess game for 6 hours like it happens sometimes in OTB classical...
They aren't readjusting your old classical tournaments.... They're not!... These are new tournaments and because they're online they can hold as much of it as possible because like you said it requires "less logistics"... Good for the players... Good for the organizers..

Besides.. all of the norms and classical FIDE ratings can only be gotten OTB... So I don't understand where the issue is? People get hooked on the fun part of things and that's fine.. people love watching Messsi's dribbles and Rinaldo's direct shots without knowing how much work it takes to execute.. but .. it's fun when they watch.. Chess isn't losing any of the values that you've thought up for it.. it's evolving into something that "everybody" can get into.. the privileged and non privileged... Those that want to improve and the random hobbyists...
Every beginner chess player is always encapsulated by Mikhail Tal's play... These aggressive style of play... When I started playing chess too years ago it was what awed me.. (we all agree it isn't as boring as these positional battles.. especially for the beginner mind).... It wasn't until I sought to improve that I saw that attacking isn't all it is to chess... I play positionally in fact.. and I no longer hold Mikhail's games in high esteem like I used to.. it's just normal for humans ...
The fun part always drags you in... But when you're serious about getting into it... You'll see the brutality of reality and that is when you'd have to make a decision to continue or not to... Mind you... I started playing chess wayy before the "chess boom"

As I read your article you were playing 3 0 ;)

@Fat_Rabbit said in #18:
> As I read your article you were playing 3 0 ;)

Noooooooooo he has become tiktokified too!

@SayChessClassical said in #1:
> Comments on lichess.org/@/saychessclassical/blog/are-we-tiktokificating-chess/XAguzJzY

Yes, heed his prophecy! From now on, instead of referring to 'the singularity' I will refer only to an asymptotic 'tiktokification' we are due to hit in early 2024. Beyond that horrifying asymptote the tiktokification of events becomes so ultrabullet as to escape the grasp of human cognition: salience of actions in the real world will shift faster than can be propagated by the chemistry of our synapses so the very neuronal processes of our thought will effectively be outside the light cone of agency in the world outside our skulls.