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Breaking The Silence Online

@manwithabishoppair said in #358:
> I dont think you can compare historical surpression of the whole female gender in almost every aspect with poorly executed, sexually overwhelmed flirt-attempts, since they occur due to a personal interest, which is sexual satisfaction, and not because of hate against a whole gender or at least a want to keep them quiet.
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If you think the limit of sexual harassment of female players online is just "poorly executed, sexually overwhelmed flirt attempts" then I think you don't have a full grasp of the problem...
@QueenRosieMary said in #362:
> If you think the limit of sexual harassment of female players online is just "poorly executed, sexually overwhelmed flirt attempts" then I think you don't have a full grasp of the problem...

Thx for your response, i wasnt talking about "the limit of sexual harassment". But isnt every inapproriate thing these people text you sexually related? Which is exactly what i meant, its a overwhelmingly sexual attempt to flirt and its very very poorly executed since it obv doesnt work in the slightest. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@manwithabishoppair said in #361:
> Of course its chess, its just fast, and you shouldnt play it if you cant emotionally withstand this very raw and violent form of competition.

I just can't move my mouse fast enough, as another poster has already pointed out my (lack of) ability in fast time controls ... I'm ok with raw and violent chess, in fact I'm all for it! But I can't stand the poor quality of the resulting game in ultra. It has nothing to do with whether or not I can "emotionally withstand" it! Not sure why you had to make inferences about my emotional capabilities there?

> But dont you believe that these other report reasons that you mentioned also deserve equal attention?

No. They deserve reporting of course, but don't have such an impact on the user in my opinion.
@borninthesixties said in #357:
> I would like to see an answer to this as well!

lol, I am getting used to the fact that most questions one asks are very unlikely to be answered

Make what one will of that :)

But it does seem to be the case
@QueenRosieMary said in #364:
> I just can't move my mouse fast enough, as another poster has already pointed out my (lack of) ability in fast time controls ... I'm ok with raw and violent chess, in fact I'm all for it! But I can't stand the poor quality of the resulting game in ultra. It has nothing to do with whether or not I can "emotionally withstand" it! Not sure why you had to make inferences about my emotional capabilities there?
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Im sorry but you have over a 1000 bullet games yourself and youre 1200 so i dont think these games will be very high quality also

Having to emotionally withstand something applies to everyone it was not a comment on your emotional qualities.
@Jade-1 said in #351:
> To remind everyone it is pretty much impossible to meaningfully shape collective behavior.

Well, unless one cares to use very suspect methods, it almost certainly is impossible to shape all collective behaviour yes.

Should that stop one trying to at least inform some ?

Would one not want to at least try and effect other issues which happen such as slavery, child abuse, poverty and so on ?

I do not think for one second that this will solve this issue per se

However, I do not see the problem with trying to do what little one can

It all adds up hopefully :)
And what you have just done is at least some "Ad hominem" ,barely disgiused

Such as this :

"Please resort from such cheap rhetorical tricks in the future, it's not constructive, childish, and I will point it out."

I am therefore not going to reply in kind, or at all

You may have the last word

Good evening :)
Good evening and sorry for the late reply. First I must say, thank you for actually reading my post and (as far as I can tell) taking the points serious, or at least not deliberatly misunderstanding me. This is a good start and above average for such politically and emotionally charged discussions on the internet.

@QueenRosieMary said in #215:
> The amount of publicity and interest this blog has generated is I think, not so much in proportion to the amount of people perpetrating this harassment, but rather in proportion to the harm it does and the hurt it causes. Let's not conflate the two things. I would say that 99.9% of the inbox messages I have received on this post (and there are a lot) have been friendly, positive and supportive. There have been only two or three people who have been either critical or abusive. A very small proportion for sure,

This is all a very good sign :)

> but I guarantee you that the 0.1% is taking up more than 0.1% of my thoughts, unfortunately.

This not. You shouldn't give those idiots so much power over your head. Injustice happens to everyone of us all of the time, resilience is an important skill in life. Just remember often, the thing that such idiots hate the most is simply being ignored.

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> Well I appreciate you saying you are not primarily criticising me, but I don't think Lichess is doing anything wrong here either.
> This blog has been the #1 trending community blog on Lichess in the past day or so, for better or worse, the algorithm is putting it on the front page because it is a hot topic. I did not expect my personal blog to reach so many viewers either, 7.7k at the time of posting, but there it is. Life surprises us sometimes. The fact that it is so popular supports the position that this is an issue people do want to read about and discuss.

Well, as said in the other post, I assumed the articles on the front side were manually curated. If it's the algortihm it's not directly their fault however, if (as theorized in the other post too) the algortihm favors articles that create many replys, it favors drama, which is a questionable design choice, in my oppinion.
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> I don't agree that I have been over-dramatic or fearmongering. If anything I have had to leave out a lot of detail because it is simply not suitable to publish. Trust me all of it happened, and more that I didn't talk about. Obviously I'm not going name users publicly or shame anyone, or include actual screenshots

As said in my other post to me it feels a lot like moral outrage and also a "please join me in my outrage" . The whole article contains a lot of value judgments, implications, inferences and connotation, it's far a way from a factual report. Also you don't even try to seek out women who are generally happy with the chess world and include their oppinion, it's one sided from the beginning and written with a very clear mission and intention.

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> Re. "virtue-signalling", honestly, if you know the personal cost that has come with publishing this blog, (which I considered not writing for a few weeks by the way as I suspected some readers may not receive it well), you would understand that no one in their right mind would write something like this, or make things like this up just for likes and views, given the backlash that is surely coming.

Well everything comes with a cost. You might differ but I think partly your own emotional life and how you react to things and feel about them is your own responsiblity. I think reporting such idiots should be enough.

And also I think this moral outrage and being the "bright public crusader for the right thing" and the "voice of the silent oppressed" also gives you something, it's a nice self-image. You also get a lot of possitive feedback too. It's the same on twitter, people that start moral outrage threads there also get something from it, otherwise they wouldn't do it. I don't judge you for this, we all have our little guilty little pleasures, but please be honest about it. You wouldn't do this if this wouldn't give you something
@manwithabishoppair said in #366:
> Im sorry but you have over a 1000 bullet games yourself and youre 1200 so i dont think these games will be very high quality also
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It always comes down to someone pointing out my bad rating in something to finish the argument lol. Yes of course they are poor-quality games, it's bullet and I am 1167. The number gives it away... I don't play bullet for quality chess, that is what classical and correspondence are for. I also don't care that I am 1100 bullet because I don't especially value it as a time control either.

> Having to emotionally withstand something applies to everyone it was not a comment on your emotional qualities.

> and you shouldnt play it if you cant emotionally withstand this very raw and violent form of competition

sounded like a personal comment to me but anyway
@Johann9 said in #368:
> I think they should create a seperate category like "poltics" or "politics in chess" and make it possible to disable that for all the people not interested. It might even be better if it's disabled by default

"Oh no, no censoring it, that's such a bad word. Nono, just make it reeeeeally small in the hidden corner there, that's OK, I'm not asking that much!"