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How long did it take for you bullet players to be able to play at that pace ?

@hicetnunc 25 years you say playing competitively , and not even you play bullet , i guess it's not for everyone (including me).
@ottoerago yeah if i'm feeling unfit , i wont be able to play bullet for sure (in any reasonably decent way).
@ayoub_m I was hoping for something rather slower than telegram to be honest, as i need time to think my moves over you see , and writing my move down and sending it to my opponent ,then awaiting their response for a few days or years is just way too fast a pace for me at this point.
Some rather insulting ignorant posts in this thread about how bullet is for those who can’t play slow aka “real” chess. Give it a rest, you are too slow and don’t know how to work on getting faster and better at tactics and positional concepts, so you feel the need to insult other people. Pick a time control and I, a bullet player, will beat you easily in your “real” aka slow chess unless you are 2300+, you know this. And I’m an adult beginner. So stop with the insults.

To answer OP, bullet takes a little bit of time to get used to, doing simple tactics repeatedly helps, think of a simple tactical puzzle, like the first 10 or 20 puzzle rush tactics, how long does it take you to solve such a puzzle? Practice that until you solve such puzzles in less than half a second. You see the puzzle, you speak the answer that same instant. For example, how long would it takes you to deliver a one move Scholars Mate or Fool’s Mate with 2...Qh4 Checkmate? That should be the speed you solve all other simple tactics with. Same with positional concepts. For example: imagine a typical French structure, you are white, you got a normal regular common e5-chain on the board (white pawns d4 and e5, black pawns e6 and d5), quickly, what is your first reaction as far as positional plan assuming there are no tactics visible at the moment? And what are black’s likely ideas that he will go for? You should answer instantly that you will play f4-f5-fe or f6 while black will hit you with ...c5 ...f6 or ...f5. This kind of stuff you should not be thinking about, it should be obvious to you, and you save time that way, this is how bullet is played, you know all the regular chess stuff, only faster :) You play on instinct, not on calculation, you play a move because it looks like a move you would calculate and consider in a slower game. Basically play your first candidate move.

Carlsen commented on this connection between fast and slow playing, he said in slower games I know what to play right away, but sometimes I have to sit there for 20 minutes and check it and calculate it, just to make sure I’m not missing some trick or flaw in my idea.

If you can’t play bullet, you should learn, because it’s holding you back, it basically means you are not good enough at basics. Your tactics are too slow. You must concentrate on that, and then your brain frees up the room and time to consider more deeper ideas. Basics first! What is your current puzzle rush score? If it isn’t 35+ you are almost wasting time studying other chess stuff, because you are not increasing your rating and skill and ability, but rather you are simply learning ABOUT chess then, not the same as learning to be ABLE TO PLAY chess. Knowledge and ability are NOT the same thing. Think of a classical musician who instead of practicing scales and exercises and drilling hard passages in his pieces instead listens to recordings of other musicians... ok... great, but you will not get better at YOUR playing that way, you will get some culture and ideas by listening, but you must work on YOUR playing FIRST, and only then devote a little bit of time listening to others for ideas etc.


Cliffs:
Work on simple tactics, repeat the same tactics to get the solutions faster, and get some bullet experience.

@Kusokosla If you don't mind me asking, how did you manage to fluctuate between 1800 and 2000 for so long at bullet, before then shooting up to 2200? And then how come you switched straight over to Blitz?
@Kusokosla You make some good points in your post.
To be honest i havn't ever played bullet ,blitz or even rapid so you make a good point that perhaps i should try it at least.
And that puzzle rush is also something i havn't tried as yet, i've only played for one year so i have been learning the basics but i guess i should branch out a bit now.
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I started a couple of years ago, or whatever my profile shows, between a year and two years ago, before that I was about 1500 maybe due to playing and studying a little bit in my 20s (I’m in 40s now) I certainly am not studying the game very seriously, so often I just play for fun or try new things, sometimes I play when I’m not fresh, so rating goes down, I really should not do that... One of the worst things one can do after a bullet or blitz or any game is play another game, no, STOP! it’s time to analyze, every move in the game, and find improvements. THEN play another game, and only then. But often I just play mindlessly game after game for fun.

Chess progress is not linear. It goes up and down and can stay same rating for a long time before suddenly rising overnight, Russian Ponamarov mentioned this same rather common scenario. Eric Hansen (chessbrah) told me the same thing, take a while, and you may not see any increase in the rating until what you learn finally matured in your mind and stuck after you review it enough times, and then you can actually use it in a game.

It’s like when you learn a new opening, you may get killed for a few weeks as you walk into every trap and make simple tactical mistakes in that opening that you never saw before, but then your results will improve.

At this time I know I can play on 2400 level (on this website) in blitz, but my knowledge is incomplete and raw, I make too many mistakes that I know I should not make, but one day my newly learned knowledge will mature enough that I think I can get to 2400 here. Now I got to 2280+ in blitz, and honestly I feel my opponents and I both play rather badly, just chess is a tricky game, so it takes a while to improve.

I wanted to try slower time controls, got tired of bullet, I will do rapid and classical and hyper bullet after I play blitz for a bit longer and get to at least 2350 here.
Kusokosla that bs, first of all gms get beaten by weaker players in bullet. Second even if carlsen would know instantly doesnt mean he could translate it into bullet. Third he also didnt mean he could do all intuitivly. Most important his father said magnus couldnt think so his intuition didnt work(Magnus documentary. Bullet is not chess.
@Kusokosla To a lesser degree i have noticed recently that my Chess ability suddenly increased (almost overnight) as if my brain had subconsciously connected pieces of my learned Chess knowledge together as it were ,which i guess frees the conscious mind to work on other aspects of the game while playing.
And as you point out , one has to analyse the games frequently in order to improve, as opposed to just keep playing and hoping that it will turn out better this time (while just repeating the same wrong moves over and over and wondering why it keeps happening).
The biggest thing I have to add is that analyzing bullet games is useful, I have gone up 1100 points in two years (on my main account) 90% due to 3 mins or less time control.

Even at 1900 I blunder pawns and positions all the time just simply for the reason that I don't see my opponents move. Almost never that I saw the move and considered it not very good. The biggest help from bullet is being able to see all the moves my opponent could make. Deciding which one is best is a completely different story.

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