Problems with gender-aware Education

@Sleepy_Gary said in #19:
> Also, no where in the most trans friendly corners of this earth would a doctor be permitted to castrate a 6 year old. Anyone who ever thinks this would be legal is neck deep in culture war propaganda.

The post was about what the " parent wanted to do " not what a doctor would go along with .

You don't think there are parents that would do something like that ? I wish that was the case.

www.stayathomemum.com.au/my-lifestyle/true-crime/7-real-life-cases-of-munchausen-syndrome-by-proxy/

I agree with you that there will always be parents who abuse their children in a variety of ways.

However, I disagree with you on the intentions of this post. Its not about "what a parent wants to do". Its a troll trying to equate "let me allow my child to transition so they don't put a bullet in their head" with "castration of a 6 year old". Even if you think being trans is a mental illness, the currently best known cure is to allow the person to transition.

@Sleepy_Gary said in #19:
> Also, no where in the most trans friendly corners of this earth would a doctor be permitted to castrate a 6 year old. Anyone who ever thinks this would be legal is neck deep in culture war propaganda.

Surgically remove the penis of a 6 year old boy? No.

Fill pre-pubescent boys with blockers? Yes.

Give tax funds to activist groups that are persecuting doctors for not diagnosing any 8 year old who wants it with gender dysphoria? Yes.

I've never heard anyone use the word castration. If they meant it literally that's just false as far as I'm aware. That's no reason to downplay the seriousness of what's going on though.

Except that the insanely high attempted suicide rate ( aprox 40% ) does not change after they transition .

The surgery/hormones does not seem to address the problem.

Why should children not be aware of gender... or did I read this wrong?

@Mopman said in #24:
> Except that the insanely high attempted suicide rate ( aprox 40% ) does not change after they transition .
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> The surgery/hormones does not seem to address the problem.
Problem with this stuff as that we have two completely different things going on in tandem.

The first is that there is a microscopic minority suffering from a mental illness called gender dysphoria. There's currently no cure, but they can become almost completely symptom free with gender transition. For them transitioning seems to be quite helpful.

The second is that there's a social constructivist cult running around trying to convince kids suffering from completely normal puberty related stuff, as well as kids with ADHD, Asperger's etc that their problems are really because of gender dysphoria and will all go away if they transition. To make it worse this cult is trendy in the main stream.

They're different things.

YellowFox, you can safely ignore this whole thread. It started as a joke. Then, it degenerated into a ... Lichess Off Topics Discussion thread.

@WS83 said in #10:
> It's telling about the times we live in that I can't know for sure if this is intended as comedy or not. My jedi senses tell me it probably is, but if not it still wouldn't be the most deranged thing I've heard.

It's pure sarcasm. The OP is trolling. There's some humor in it, and some points to be made. Nobody capable of writing something like the OP did is serious about what was written. What was written undermines itself with awareness of self-inflicted problems and issues.

I find it hilariously distasteful.

@YellowFox10 said in #25:
> Why should children not be aware of gender... or did I read this wrong?
@Frogster64 said in #28:
> YellowFox, you can safely ignore this whole thread. It started as a joke. Then, it degenerated into a ... Lichess Off Topics Discussion thread.

Don't worry about it. I agree with Frogster64 ... ignore this thread. It is sarcastic and satirical. The points made by the OP also undermine themselves. Basic logic: Ask if the intended gifts had the intended effect instead of being ironically ill-suited; or what would happen in real life (siblings exchange toys to suite their natural wants/needs/desires).

Gender conformance is irrelevant. Before awareness of gender, personality starts developing. That is what matters, and it is much more important than either side's personal belief's about gender conformance, or non-conformance, or whatever.

Ignore the loony-tunes and their respective beliefs about what or how you should think or be ... and just be yourself.