How Russia learned to deny reality

@Katzenschinken Why are you boosting this topic again and again?
As for Bucha, this fake has long been unveiled.

www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/24/dozens-bucha-civilians-killed-flechettes-metal-darts-russian-artillery

Here, theguardian writes that civilians were killed by the Russian military. The forensic medical examination found in the bodies of the victims metal flechettes, which are stuffed with 122mm 3Sh1 howitzers.
1. Theguardian directly writes that artillery strikes on Bucha were carried out at a time when the city was under the control of Russian troops. Could Russian troops strike at the territory in which they themselves are located?

2. The shelling was carried out with 122mm artillery shells stuffed with flechettes. Such weapons are used by the Ukrainian army. Similar shells have been used by the Ukrainian army since 2014 in the shelling of Donbass.
3. Such shells are used in D-30 howitzers. At the beginning of the operation, the Ukrainian army had at least 350 D-30 howitzers and a large amount of ammunition for them from the times of the USSR. In Russia, such howitzers are practically withdrawn from service. The Russian army uses MSTA-B howitzers with other 152mm rounds.
Please, stop spreading fakes.

Do you, russian commentators, really believe what you write here? I am trying to find out what is happening to you. Do you tell the same lies again and again until you believe them and mistake them to reality? Do you hide your conscience deep knowing you lie?
I don't know what is worse, lying consciously or believing you tell the truth even it is clearly a fake?
I am sorry for you, do not know how you sleep at night.
I will just say one thing: trying to justify or minimise the massacre of civilians makes you co-author to it, at least morally.

@qbot said in #41:

> www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/24/dozens-bucha-civilians-killed-flechettes-metal-darts-russian-artillery
>
YOU POSTED THE LINK THEN LIED ABOUT WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAID , HOPING NOBODY WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT ! DISINFORMATION AND LAZY !

Actual quotes from the link:

"According to Neil Gibson, a weapons expert at the UK-based Fenix Insight group, who has reviewed the photos of the projectiles seen, they include the 122mm 3Sh1 artillery round, in use by Russian artillery and which are filled with fléchettes."

"According to a number of witnesses in Bucha, fléchette rounds were fired by Russian artillery a few days before forces withdrew from the area at the end of March."

“We are seeing a lot mutilated (disfigured) bodies,” said Pirovsky. “A lot of them had their hands tied behind their backs and shots in the back of their heads. There were also cases with automatic gunfire, like six to eight holes on the back of victims. And we have several cases of cluster bombs’ elements embedded in the bodies of the victims.”

"Evidence collected by the Guardian during a visit to Bucha, Hostomel and Borodianka, and reviewed by independent weapons experts, showed that Russian troops used cluster munitions – which are banned in much of the world – and powerful unguided bombs in populated areas, which have destroyed at least eight civilian buildings."

Where is disinformarion?
Again, 122mm 3Sh1 not used by Russian army! How could the Russian army bombard the territory on which itself was located?

@qbot said in #44:
> Again, 122mm 3Sh1 not used by Russian army!

Out of curiosity , do you also deny the Holodomor ?

www.britannica.com/event/Holodomor

Well, looks like living in rossia right now is the same scenario than it was for Underground movie.

youtu.be/p5t3MGEnCTw

@qbot said in #44:
> Where is disinformarion?
> Again, 122mm 3Sh1 not used by Russian army! How could the Russian army bombard the territory on which itself was located?

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@qbot said in #44:
> Where is disinformarion?
> Again, 122mm 3Sh1 not used by Russian army! How could the Russian army bombard the territory on which itself was located?
"3Sh1" transliterates "3Ш1".
Here is a link to the forum page where those who used it tell about this round:
popgun.ru/viewtopic.php?t=250601

@qbot said in #44:
> Where is disinformarion?
> Again, 122mm 3Sh1 not used by Russian army! How could the Russian army bombard the territory on which itself was located?

You seem a trifle confused about army tactics.
It is standard procedure to shell ahead of your advancing infantry.
That's "How could the Russian army bombard the territory on which itself was located?"

@obladie said in #36:
> No...you intentionally misrepresented me.

You failed to quote. As a result of that it looked like he was quoting you.
Not fixing your error is def not the same as intentionally misrepresenting. The only one reaching that post out of context is you via the ping anyways.