@CSKA_Moscou said in #19:
> English is not my first language, I have only seen this word two or three times in nature magazines.
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> (I was talking about all the little songbirds like robins).
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Passerines is the correct word, I knew what you meant ;)
> concerning parakeets, it's like bullfrogs, pets deliberately released (animal abandonments are on the rise every year, it sickens me). in Spain or Portugal they are parakeets arriving naturally.
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The last time I was in London for work, I noticed a lot of parakeets in the park, I think that from some birds being released into the wild at the start, they must now be breeding and thriving in the wild. I remember even as a child, visiting my grandparents in London, thet there were flocks of wild parakeets in the parks.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_parakeets_in_Great_Britain#:~:text=The%20British%20rose%2Dringed%20parakeet,of%20Kingston%20upon%20Thames%20and> About the video...
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> It reminds me of the white rhino...
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gahhh! pet owners that can't control their dogs but let them chase wildlife and agricultural animals...
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> Cool!
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> QRM, I have a question, if an individual brings you a prohibited exotic pet (baby panther, South American parrot, armadillo), after having treated the animal, you have the right not to return it to the owner ?
As far as I know, this has never happened to me, and therefore it is not something I have thought about much. I think if someone brought me an illegal exotic I would seek advice specific to the country I was working in at the time as laws and guidelines can change. "Kidnapping" someone's pet can be legally fraught.
As an example, when I worked in enforcement in the Department of Agriculture, sometimes we might be on a farm and find a horror show, with lots of starved, dead, and/or dying animals (perhaps a situation where we needed to collect evidence and prosecute the farmer). In those cases, while it was obvious that a lot of the animals might need to be put to sleep, we couldn't just shoot everything. First, we would have to call the police and get permission from them to do this since the animals were the property of the farmer and we didn't want to run into problems with criminal damage to the farmer's property. Once we filled in the paperwork and the police had approved it, then we could destroy whichever animals were not able to be helped.
Often in these situations, the police would already be there on the farm with us because the kind of person who starves a whole herd of cows or flock of sheep to death is often the kind of person you need an armed escort to go and see anyway! I would say that in a lot of these cases, the farmer was also a)maybe struggling with mental illness and b) possibly abusing the wife or children as well. Actually, in recent times, there has been more evidence to show a correlation between animal abuse and human abuse.
At the time I was working in this field, we were trying to establish communication links between the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Social Services, but it was very difficult because of data protection reasons.
irishvetjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2046-0481-61-10-658www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9024712/revista.drclas.harvard.edu/the-relationship-between-animal-cruelty-and-domestic-violence/So in answer to your question, I don't know, but I would seek advice first.
