turtling

so i was reading about cheating in online games and various methods (very interesting and fun to read, recommend en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cheating_in_online_games) and eventually i came to reading about tactic which's not cheating or anything in the same boat, but simply gameplay tactic - turtling.

>turtling is a gameplay strategy that emphasizes heavy defense, with little or no offense. a player who turtles minimizes risk to themselves while baiting opponents to take risks in trying to overcome the defenses. it's about using relatively safe attack options to slow down the pace of the game and minimize the number of punishable mistakes made during the course of the match while baiting opponents into making them.

can this be applied to the chess world? is it effective? i for sure know there definitely are positional and attacking game styles, but the deal here is i read turtling is usually frowned upon and even are implemented design to punish it in various ways. is this a thing in chess? is there any negative attitude towards strongly defensive play be it in serious or online games?

well idk
but offense is always the best defense so too bad for turtling 🐢

i laughed for real seeing that turtle haha.

and turtling sort of sounds similar to camping, but in chess, so i guess that's why people hate it

yes, from what i understand, camping is form of turtling - which means it's called camping in fighting games like cs while turtling is more general term and applies to wide range of games where staying in your spawn or something like that to shoot, hence literally camp, is not a thing. what other type of games could it take place though and in what forms?

some more takes?

computers do it all the time

@mouseaccofkbplayer
I feel it's normal.
By the way, this is your second account with respect to your username!

@mouseaccofkbplayer It can certainly be applied, and I've seen it: players open with a "boring" first series of moves, (ex. London) and trade away all their pieces with the opponent, with little to no attack, and the game is a draw. It's not unpleasant, or is it against the rules. Chess is a game where the opponent of the "turtler" can choose whether to go offensive or not, and if they do they may risk blundering away that half point.

On youtube there are some videos where, e.g., gothamchess plays cheaters by turtling. Usually he uses the hippo defense or something similar.