Chess. Com report published in Wall Street Journal - A BOMB

No, I seriously can't. The WSJ says 2020. That's not exactly ancient history. It casts doubt on his progress to date in so many ways. And it's doubled down on with statements made in the last couple of months that it was isolated incidents - and those statements are very close to us in time. And those appear to be factually incorrect.

Part of maturity is being able to look at an issue from both sides and see the value in the points of someone who has a different opinion than you. I get where some of the other arguments are coming from, the situation is kind of a mess. But it would seem to me also valuable to you to consider how you feel about online cheating especially when you're a titled player. The people who are deeply offended by that ALSO have a point, no? If we don't listen to each other we can't really communicate, can we?

Rofl. You do understand what's going on is horrific and wrong, don't you? Can you conceivably not?

@LegendaryQueen said in #27:
> He did something years back.
>
> You think his career should now be ended because he WON A GAME VS CARLSEN?
>
> Please for God's sake stop.

He should be punished for serially cheating online, in big tournaments, and then lying about it. He was also very stupid, and I will tell you why he was very stupid. According to this report, he admitted to the cheating in 2020 and communicated with chess dot com about it. He knew that if he admitted he would be allowed to come back and play, and have things handled discreetly. Then, when he gave his ridiculous interview shortly after St. Louis, he not only knowingly lied about the amount of cheating he did, he had the gall to call out chess dot com and impugn them. Despite knowing that they knew he cheated 100+ times! What on earth did he think would happen, chess dot com would just roll over and not say anything about a matter that was previously kept very discreet?

If Niemann was a little more mature, he would have realized in his head what Danny Rensch later explicitly said. " “...there always remained serious concerns about how rampant your cheating was in prize events...” and that there was too much at stake.". Once he serially cheated in big cash games, Niemann forfeited the benefit of the doubt other chess players have regardless of whether or not the cheating occurred online.

None of this has anything to do with 2020.
Whatsoever.
It has to do with allegations, insinuations, fuel on the fire,
So on and so forth.
It's horrendous, atrocious, and quite frankly very evil.

Those again are nothing but allegations.

@KingRod said in #24:

> Very naive and dishonest view

Argue your point forcefully, I welcome it, but no need to accuse me of dishonesty. I'm arguing in good faith. No need for the ad hominem stuff.

> Going by the report, I believe he was 17 when he last cheated, hardly a minor

17 is *precisely* a minor in almost all jurisdictions, certainly in most liberal democracies.

I'll refute your B.S. with two simple statements.
"Sometimes the only way is to cheat." -- Aryan Tari
"I'll probably get away with it. I usually do." -- Magnus Carlsen.

@LegendaryQueen
> Who do you think did something wrong here?
> You are supporting an essentially insane act and absolute hostility, gaslighting, character assassination, psychological abuse (from Naka, "He's completely crazy!!!", in a emotionally heightened state,)
> Just a hell of a lot of abuse.
Nobody is supporting that; you're being dishonest, and attributing my thoughts to arguments I have neither founded nor supported. He has cheated, he lied about how much he cheated, and he can't explain his moves. These statements possess none of the characteristics you accuse me of supporting; the third statement is my reason for believing he cheated against Carlsen. I don't believe he is past cheating, and we'll likely have to wait for more circumstantial evidence; evidence you keep repeating is ours to provide, but which you also keep (paradoxically) imploring us to stop seeking for.

No you are just adopting the absolute joke of Nakamura's abuse.
"Carlsen plays the Catalan almost exclusively." Yep he sure does.
Niemann's explanation was EXTREMELY clear. EXTREMELY LUCID.
and EXTREMELY coherent.
Nakamura is not the most trusted authority on these things,
(this is sort of a joke ---- he is unimaginably wrong about many things.)

For example, his idea that Magnus would have played the W.C. if Naka had been the opponent.
You may not be able to understand how false and untrue this is, but it is extremely false and untrue.

@LegendaryQueen said in #37:
> I'll refute your B.S. with two simple statements.
> "Sometimes the only way is to cheat." -- Aryan Tari
> "I'll probably get away with it. I usually do." -- Magnus Carlsen.

You are far too hung up on the actions of other people and not Niemann. What Magnus did is ultimately irrelevant, clearly multiple top players had suspicions about Niemann, Magnus was just the first to air this dirty laundry. Niemann's past was ALWAYS going to catch up with him. Those were choices he mad, and now he is suffering for them. Again, his actions have consequences regardless of whether you think they are "evil" or "unjust". The fact of the matter is people do not want to play against serial cheaters, and people will look at you differently and treat you differently even if you havent cheated in the past 2, 5 or 10 years. It takes a lifetime to build a reputation and an instant to destroy it. Niemann is finding that lesson out in a very hard way, but I believe ultimately the lesson is fair.

You also seem rather upset, spamming emojiis and replying very emotionally to people. I think you should remove yourself a little from this drama and get some perspective. None of this personally affects you, or at least it shouldn't. No need to get hysterical.