@salmon_rushdie said in #80:
> The US fought directly with a million chinese soldiers in Korea - no nuclear war
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> The US fought directly with 11,000 Soviets and 300,000 chinese in Vietnam - no nuclear war
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> It's called brinksmanship and madman theory,
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> No ones going to do any such thing, but they'd love for people to believe they would.
As he said, there was actually some sort of backchannel conversation going on back in the day. Either it's just that Ray McGovern doesn't know of any backchannel conversation going on now, or it doesn't exist.
Oh, and Ray McGovern is "some guy":
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_McGovern"McGovern was a CIA analyst from 1963 to 1990, and in the 1980s chaired National Intelligence Estimates and prepared the President's Daily Brief. "