Hello.
I don´t remember in which web I read a small list in which I saw a few chess players with their respective iq numbers.
I wonder if you know some IQ numbers of current and past players.
I leave you what I remember from that list:
Nigel Short 140.
Judith Polgár 170.
Magnus Carlsen 186.
Here, I want to point out that I heard him say in an interview shortly after winning his first World Title that he didn´t know his IQ number. I think he said it in a norwegian interview.
Bobby Fischer 187.
I've seen 180 in the header of a YouTube video.
Kasparov 190.
Capablanca around 200.
Curiously I haven´t seen Anand´s number.
I'm curious about knowing about: Kramnik, So, Caruana, Mamedyarov, Aronian, MLV, Nakamura, Anish Giri, Liren Ding, Grischuk, Karjakin, Svidler, Nepomniachtchi, Wei Yi, Bacrot, Ponomariov, Peter Leko, Howell, Gata Kamsky, Boris Gelfand, Hou Yifan.... I am always so demanding, selfish and curious :)
I have no idea Karpov´s number.
There are many types of intelligence and I recognize that associating the ability of any brain can be somewhat inaccurate and even wrong but I´d like to know more chess legends (current or past) and their IQ numbers (approximations, for example).
Thank you.
where did you get these numbers, they're really sketchy.
I watched them on a spanish website . Short´s number seems low. The others seem to have logic
I don´t believe all I read on line.
It is an interesting topic.
If some of the players mentioned saw the list surely would be in discord.
Everyone has a brain touched by Gods (on the list).
I think Capablanca has been able to have the greatest innate talent for history chess (perhaps more than Bobby Fischer).
But I haven´t done them any intelligence tests and I don´t know the way of do it.
I am sure that a privileged mind is more important than the effort in chess (much more).
these numbers are so off the scale that they don't look realistic at all, not just sketchy
saying that somebody has iq 200 is like saying somebody has elo 4000, just too off the scale too be true.
All pure speculation by the OP. No reliable sources. Just another troll thread. No doubt he'll makes disputes. As example: Fischer never took a credible IQ test. Allegedly he took an obscure test in High School, the results of which were never recorded or found. (His teachers recall him performing badly, making average grades.) The numbers presented by the OP are guesses, estimates made by people with little knowledge on the subject. Reports of Fischers IQ are traced back to a publicist. He was very smart at chess, unintelligent at most other things. (It is reported he could not balance a check book.)
Some sources give Garry Kasparov, a renowned chess player, an IQ between 185 and 190. But in 1987-88, the German magazine Der Spiegel went to considerable effort and expense to find out Kasparov's IQ. Under the supervision of an international team of psychologists, Kasparov was given a large battery of tests designed to measure his memory, spatial ability, and abstract reasoning. They measured his IQ as 135 and his memory as one of the very best.
www.iq-test.net/what-is-garry-kasparov-iq-pms70.htmlIf Nigel Short is 140 the world is doomed
If Nigel Short is 140, everybody else is a genius.
" No doubt he'll makes disputes ". mdinnerspace
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I don´t want any dispute.
I just wanted to know the opinion of people who are more expert than me in the subject.
postscript: Nobody, until, has given more numbers of players and IQ numbers than me.
In my oppinion Capablanca´s number is coherent, and Carlsen´s number can be even higher than 186.
I do not think the OP has a clue about IQ numbers.
Suggest Chicago you do some research about the highest IQ's on record. Established, verifiable tests performed in controlled settings.
The highest ever scores, that are verified are <200. A few individuals have approached this number.
There is nothing special about chess players that indicates there IQ's are higher than normal. Chess is not a measure of intelligence. They perform well, being some IQ tests rely heavily on spatial recognition.
IQ's above 180 are extremely rare, seen by possibly by only a dozen individuals. Carlsen has never taken an IQ test that has been published. It is speculation, which most always is a great deal higher than actual scores when tests are taken.
Marilyn Vos Savant (IQ: 186)
Not only has this wonderful lady made it to The Guinness Book of World Records as the person possessing the highest IQ in 1986, but also has column after her name called " Ask MarilynI " in the Parade Magazine. Although with a controversial stand on her IQ, according to which she'd earlier scored a whopping 228 but then took the Mega Test to score 186, in 1989 the New York magazine regarded her and her husband Robert Jarvik – who designed the first successful artificial heart were regarded as “the smartest couple in New York.”