Non-titled players and Titled Arena

I am not sure if the idea is new, but I though that maybe it would be interesting and worth considering to reward the non-titled winners of the Title Arena warm-ups with the right to participate in the main event. It would certainly attract much more attention to both of the tournaments and maybe add something really unique to it. Any thoughts on that?

If you are good enough to win a warm-up arena, you are good enough to get a title, in case you don't have one already.

Well @Salamandra27 the tournament was only for Titled player's so it wouldn't make sense to have the tournament ya see?
But as both events have pasted we can't do anything about it

@bufferunderrun

Well, that's the point! But obtaining the FIDE title may be a problem for many of those, who plays exclusively on the internet. Bullet chess is not exactly the same chess as at the FIDE tournaments. Can you even think of anyone who is willing to spend hours over the board just to be able to play in this bullet online tournament? Not everyone has the time for that.

The thing is, you won't get to that level without spending hours on chess.

@bufferunderrun

I agree, but not necessarily over the board.

Besides, I am talking about those who has already acquired needed bullet skills and are still hours and hours away from getting the title on the formal FIDE path.

You need 30 rated games and a FIDE rating above 2200 to get a CM title. It's not the matter of time, since you spend hours and hours in front of a computer. So, I'll iterate this, if your bullet skills are at the level where you are able to win a warm-up arena, you won't have difficulties to get a title. But chances are you've already got one, just need to verify it.

It comes to be stupid to base prizes arena on the basis of "titled players" when there is no bullet rating, FIDE and/or most of national federations.

It is always the same elitism and pyramidal system: let's create titled arenas to attract more titled players. More titled players will attract more user and more users will attract more donations. More donations equals to higher salaries for the Lichess "nomenklatura", genuinely losing its open and user-based nature becoming Lichess in a corporation that seeks to maximize its benefits not to create a large community for the benefit of users, but for an elite of titled masters and lap dogs. Lichess has long since lost its essence.

But hey, we're just "amateurs" scumbags after all, @Salamandra27.

@bufferunderrun

You are keep saying the same. Many of the online players may just not be interested in the over the board classical chess. They would love to participate in the bullet Titled Arena though.

@Medlar

That's why, in my opinion, introducing one skillful "amateur" would bring something very unique to this tournament. I think that in general it would fit very well to the "Open" Lichess spirit.

I don't think you are necessarily strong enough to get a title if you win a warm up arena. There are many players on lichess that are stronger in blitz than classical, and much stronger in bullet than blitz. On chess.com, I am ~1700 bullet, ~1500 blitz, and around 1200 rapid. Following that trend, it is conceivable that a player could be extremely strong in bullet time controls, but not quite strong enough to get a title in over the board FIDE time controls. Many people might also not be able to get a title because of time and/or monetary constraints.
Nonetheless, I do not support salamandra27's idea because the chance to play Carlsen and other titled players would probably encourage more cheaters in the warm-up arenas.