Propagandists of Ukraine, who is who?

@Red-white said in #2:
> Stippy was right. Ukrainian trolls, instead of playing chess, drag politics to the site. Yes, it must be added that the war did not start today. It began in 2014, when Ukraine began to fight against the people who did not want to live according to the laws of the followers of Bandera and Shukhevych. Over 14,000 civilians have been killed by Ukrainian army shells in Donbas in 8 years. So Russia launched a special operation to end this war. No more.

My friend. Putin invaded Crimea in 2014 then started supporting separatists. Thats who started the war. Putin invaded in response to The Ukraine having a revolution to oust their Puppet President who did not want to join the EU after taking a Bribe from Putin. Any country has the right to protect their home whether from terrorists or Putin soldiers, they have the moral right. And the world sides with those who fight for freedom and an open collaborative society, which even Russians are deprived of. You want to believe the US hates Russia because that is what you have been told all your life. All we have ever done is praise your evil leader and give him money. Now we want the best for the Russian people, we don't want to see the Russian people oppressed and not even able to discuss politics like we do here on these forums. We want the Russian people to be free and open and join the modern world.

In fact this is a chess site which means many of us love and admire Russian chess players.

@STIPPI said in #1:
> 1. @YoChen
> 2. @clousems
> 3. @Mopman
> 4. @MaugliUA
> 5. @CooloutAC

Hey man, you forgot about me. Don't be rude!

I <3 [western] Propaganda, too!

And I'm proud of making offensive and bad jokes at the expense of Russia and Putin.

@SJCVChess said in #22:
> Hey man, you forgot about me. Don't be rude!
>
> I <3 [western] Propaganda, too!
>
> And I'm proud of making offensive and bad jokes at the expense of Russia and Putin.

Yep, I'm taking it personally as well

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OP got his ass handed to him on silver platter on this thread, haha.

@Red-white said in #2:
> Stippy was right. Ukrainian trolls, instead of playing chess, drag politics to the site. Yes, it must be added that the war did not start today. It began in 2014, when Ukraine began to fight against the people who did not want to live according to the laws of the followers of Bandera and Shukhevych. Over 14,000 civilians have been killed by Ukrainian army shells in Donbas in 8 years. So Russia launched a special operation to end this war. No more.
Stop the disinformation. UN report shows the number of deaths for civilians in Donbas is steadily decreasing since 2017: in 2017 - 117, in 2018 - 55, in 2019 - 27, in 2020- 26, in 2021 - 18. At the height of the conflict in 2014 - 2084 civilians died.
So where is 18000 number from?
Also who is responsible for making war in 2014? Russia, who entered Donbas with green army
Who is responsible for war in 2022? You guessed it, Russia, who invaded

Also most people who died the last years were from leftover mines which were triggered, not fighting.

> 2. @clousems - since March 25 - about 45 topics and messages about the conflict (by the way, he doesn't play chess, he only writes!)
Well some of us dont want to play
There is a level called a forum poster
And well the players just respond to the topics giving their views.
Its not your problem to snoop in

@STIPPI @Red-white I didn't think you were so inhuman...
I've read all the posts in this thread and found that there are a few people who just want to show off. I don't like it when people who know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the situation in Ukraine start shutting everyone's mouths? Who are you anyway? Unlike you, we have freedom of speech in our country.
I live in Ukraine, it's easy to understand. In Nikolaev. So far, this is a rear city, but the entire area has been destroyed, and rockets and cluster bombs are constantly flying into the city.
And people are already dying at the hands of these freaks. From Putin's trash and murderers.
Yesterday my friend died after russian shelling, and I'm not going to keep silent about it. And yes, we do not hide or cremate our dead, saying later that the person simply went missing.
Did you say something about propaganda there? so, we just say what we think is necessary. I'm not insulting anyone, but you don't know what a siren is in the city, explosions that keep you awake at night (by the way, what kind of rats are you that you allow yourself to shoot at residential areas at night?). Also, you don’t know what it means to lose a loved one in front of your eyes, when a Russian freak killed him for no reason.
And I'm sure that if right now one of you, sofa experts, is put in Mariupol or Kharkiv in an ordinary apartment in the city center, a shell will also hit you, or you will put it in your pants so that you won't think what's going on here it’s so much fun that everyone just wants to play chess and have this fun.
Ukraine is supported by the whole world, at least the civilized one. Thanks to everyone who supports us during this difficult time, we love you!
Hey, russians, just compare: the main problem in Russia in March is the disabling of monetization on YouTube. Or disqualification of the national team from the World Cup. You write about this almost everywhere you can, even this nonsense catches my eye.
And we are WAR!!! Bitches, get out of the Ukrainian land, you are not welcome here!!! So why can't we write about it? That's when they kill you, maybe at that time you will whine about monetization and spotify?
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gratitude to @clousems @bfchessguy @InkyDarkBird @ClaireMarie123 @bfchessguy @CooloutAC @Collateral_love @YoChen @Mopman @MaugliUA thank you for your messages. We are together, and I am proud to be Ukrainian. We are the power!
Слава Україні!
Ruska kurwa!

я проживаю в России,здесь военная цензура,все новости можно узнать только из источников пропаганды,как и было всегда здесь.К сожалению большинство населения,просто неграмотные и глупые,чем и пользуется пропаганда,кто имеет иную точку зрения,ожидает тюремный срок или штраф.Лично я против войны.
I live in Russia, there is military censorship here, all news can be found only from propaganda sources, as it has always been here.Unfortunately, the majority of the population is simply illiterate and stupid, which is what propaganda uses, those who have a different point of view expect a prison sentence or a fine.Personally, I am against war.

@YoChen #9
These are no longer Russian chess players, but your chess players. May they now live among you. And we will no longer care whether you give them Aryan passports or whether they wear other signs so that they can be distinguished from disloyal Russians.