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#31
@griffindabeast said in #30:
> I highly doubt that the “republicans” are thinking about the return of Jesus and the apocalypse happening. Most of the time things are about money/power. None of this conspiracy theory crap.

Like $2 billion from Saudi Arabia? ;-P
#32
@bfchessguy said in #27:
> For religious reasons you'd choose the one who will for sure make life harder for Palestinians???
I never said that. I said "both are ex aequo in their worseness" and I choose neither of them to be in power. I hate both of them, and the current situation in Gaza is the main reason but not the only one.
#33
And about Saudia Arabia's government that refuses to help the Palestinians brothers, I also despise them. A muslim who helps a genocide is not our ally anymore.
#34
@WassimBerbar said in #32:
> I never said that. I said "both are ex aequo in their worseness" and I choose neither of them to be in power. I hate both of them, and the current situation in Gaza is the main reason but not the only one.

Could you send the message that what they do in Michigan is like voting for 45th ? Quite dumb to do this.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/uncommitted-biden-protesters-celebrate-showing-michigans-primary-states/story?id=107639095

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
#36
I would call the US a liberal plutocracy. Plutocracy because to pass laws you need to buy representatives, and to buy representatives you need money (a.k.a lobby). Liberal because personal freedoms are still guaranteed to a certain extent, though in the time of massive surveillance and IA one can be skeptic.

To have to choose between a con artist and a senile man reveals how broken democracy already is. And of course, a non existent debate on the topics that matter is to be expected.

Wall Street is laughing hard.
#37
@morphyms1817 said in #8:
> Certainly every person has some deeds they are not proud of.

The thing is, Trump IS proud of these things. He's proud of every bad deed he has done. And there are a lot of them I could list but you probably wouldn't care.

A small sample:
- He's proud of not paying his taxes ("That makes me smart!").
- Proud of dodging conscription ("bone spurs")
- Proud of defrauding his financial partners by over- or undervaluing his properties on a whim (as it benefits him).
- Proud of being so famous that he can sexually assault women and get away with it (you don't brag about something if you're not proud of it and happy about it)
- Unapologetic about it when pressed ("It's just locker-room talk."). That doesn't really sound like he's not proud about this moment. That's him downplaying its importance, not him regretting faults of his past self.
- Proud of his own perceived intelligence ("I am smart", "I have good genes", "Dr. John Trump from MIT, my uncle, yadayadayada ...")
- Therefore proudly denying the scientific consensus on human made climate change and extending the trajectory of a hurricane on a NOAA chart with a sharpie just to save face

- Proudly denying the validity of the result of the 2020 election and spreading baseless conspiracies about voter fraud.
- Proudly showing disdain for democracy and the peaceful transfer of power.
- Proudly vowing to "root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections." (Trump on November 11, 2023 at a New Hampshire campaign event)
- i.e. proudly dehumanising his political opponents by comparing them to vermin who need to be "rooted out"
- Proudly trying to overturn the election (for months).
- Proud of his "perfect phone call" with Brad Raffensberger, Georgia secretary of state, who he pressured to falsify the election in his favour ("I just want to find 11,780 votes")
- Proud of the insurrectionists who chanted "hang Mike Pence" on Jan 6 and stormed the capitol building, an attack that killed several people, calling them patriots, promising to pardon them, even releasing a song they recorded in prison in order to fund his campaign

- Proudly and repeatedly defaming Jean Carroll, a woman who won a civil trial against him (being rewarded damages for the sexual assault he perpetrated), despite several court rulings
- Very, very proud of the "fun" nicknames and insults he comes up with for disabled people, WW2 veterans and other people who do not lick his boots

The only bad deeds he's not publicly proud of are the ones he has to deny due to legal reasons:
- Allegedly giving classified military information about US and Russian submarines to Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt, who bought a membership at Mar-a-Lago.
- Allegedly trying to hide boxes of classified information from an FBI search warrant, shipping them off to a different location just in time
- And a lot of other stuff concerning any of the other 91 felony counts (across four different cases) he's accused of

> Certainly every person has some deeds they are not proud of.

Trump hasn't. He's unabashed. And a grave danger to democracy.
#39
@griffindabeast said in #30:
> I highly doubt that the “republicans” are thinking about the return of Jesus and the apocalypse happening. Most of the time things are about money/power. None of this conspiracy theory crap.

The voters certainly do, like 33% are qanon nutjobs, 33% religious voters and the last 33% are a mix of random people who live in the Midwest & south who believe in conservatism the good ol days and money
#40
>Proudly denying the validity of the result of the 2020 election and spreading baseless conspiracies about voter fraud

... and with the help of the right-wing media and political allies, he managed to get ~40% of American voters to believe that the election was stolen. Now we have election deniers running in State attorney general or secretary of state races (). These public officials have important roles in ensuring election integrity.

Many reasonable Republican Senators and Representatives keep quiet about Trump's abuses to avoid losing their primary election. Or they quit because they know they'll lose after speaking out against Trump.

Many patriotic election volunteers are quitting because of pressure and abuse, getting replaced by Trumpian zealots.

>Proud of his "perfect phone call" with Brad Raffensberger, Georgia secretary of state, who he pressured to falsify the election in his favour ("I just want to find 11,780 votes")

And Trump will try this again, but he'll be more careful. Let's hope public officials and volunteers don't bend.

Democrats are no saints, and they're partly responsible for the Trump atrocity, but the choice for 2024 is a no-brainer for me. I'm not voting for Biden, I'm voting against Trump.

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