2 million people may be pushed out of Gaza. 2 more million people may have to leave the soon-to-be-annexed West Bank. A humanitarian catastrophe.
@m011235 said in #1:
> 2 million people may be pushed out of Gaza. 2 more million people may have to leave the soon-to-be-annexed West Bank. A humanitarian catastrophe.
First of all, I don't think Israel will annex Gaza and what you say is very sad, but what do you want to do? Should we leave Hamas without destroying it?
> 2 million people may be pushed out of Gaza. 2 more million people may have to leave the soon-to-be-annexed West Bank. A humanitarian catastrophe.
First of all, I don't think Israel will annex Gaza and what you say is very sad, but what do you want to do? Should we leave Hamas without destroying it?
@m011235 said in #1:
> 2 million people may be pushed out of Gaza. 2 more million people may have to leave the soon-to-be-annexed West Bank. A humanitarian catastrophe.
it won't happen, dude.
but you know what did happen? Hamas locking up people in the north and stealing their car keys, blocking roads, ect, literally forcing them to be human shields in the battle field.
> 2 million people may be pushed out of Gaza. 2 more million people may have to leave the soon-to-be-annexed West Bank. A humanitarian catastrophe.
it won't happen, dude.
but you know what did happen? Hamas locking up people in the north and stealing their car keys, blocking roads, ect, literally forcing them to be human shields in the battle field.
Hamas can end this anytime they want. Return the hostages, lay down their weapons and offer an unconditional surender.
I feel bad for the Gazans who are innocent victims.
Likewise, In the 1940s the RAF and US Army Airforce relentlessly bombed the cities of Germany. Innocent children died in those bombings. People who activity opposed Hitler and the Nazis sometimes died in those bombings. I weep for loss of innocent lives. However, I don't fault the piolets who flew the planes or FDR and Churchill who ordered the bombings. The fault of those innocent deaths lie solely with Hitler and the Nazis.
I weep for the lose of innocent lives, but Israel bares none of the blame for defending itself and freeing Gazans from the tyranny of Hamas.
I feel bad for the Gazans who are innocent victims.
Likewise, In the 1940s the RAF and US Army Airforce relentlessly bombed the cities of Germany. Innocent children died in those bombings. People who activity opposed Hitler and the Nazis sometimes died in those bombings. I weep for loss of innocent lives. However, I don't fault the piolets who flew the planes or FDR and Churchill who ordered the bombings. The fault of those innocent deaths lie solely with Hitler and the Nazis.
I weep for the lose of innocent lives, but Israel bares none of the blame for defending itself and freeing Gazans from the tyranny of Hamas.
Heard a very on point:
When a Muslim kills another Muslim nobody cares. Not the world at large or the Muslim communities. And it happens slot more Muslims die at hands of other Muslims than have died in a week, than have died in conflict with Israel in 50 years.
When a Muslim kills a Jew it is a tragedy. Like a hurricane it is unavoidable. If you live in Florida hurricanes are a risk you take. If you live in Israel you have to accept that terrorism is just a part of life. There is nothing that can prevent that.
When a Jew kills a Muslim it is a war crime. Every human rights organization takes notice and protests. If Israel drops a bomb on a car driven a by a mass murderer and his 16 year old son (who is training to be a terrorist) is in the car, Israel is targeting children.
When a Muslim kills another Muslim nobody cares. Not the world at large or the Muslim communities. And it happens slot more Muslims die at hands of other Muslims than have died in a week, than have died in conflict with Israel in 50 years.
When a Muslim kills a Jew it is a tragedy. Like a hurricane it is unavoidable. If you live in Florida hurricanes are a risk you take. If you live in Israel you have to accept that terrorism is just a part of life. There is nothing that can prevent that.
When a Jew kills a Muslim it is a war crime. Every human rights organization takes notice and protests. If Israel drops a bomb on a car driven a by a mass murderer and his 16 year old son (who is training to be a terrorist) is in the car, Israel is targeting children.
@a4477 said in #2:
> but what do you want to do? Should we leave Hamas without destroying it?
This is actually a great question!
You are essentially counter-arguing with the following dilemma:
1) Let Hamas killing or injuring 330 Israeli civilians per year, according to United Nations report: www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
2) Destroy the lives of, let's say, 2000000 Palestinians.
I would clearly go with the second option! After all, in the long term, if everything stays the same, in about 6000 years the damage inflicted by Hamas on humanity will be the same!
If you can inflict the same amount of damage in one week, why leave it for later?
PS Needless to say, that these 2000000 refugees better not try to find resort in the West... They dilute our humanitarian values and institutions! And why don't they go back to their country after all???
> but what do you want to do? Should we leave Hamas without destroying it?
This is actually a great question!
You are essentially counter-arguing with the following dilemma:
1) Let Hamas killing or injuring 330 Israeli civilians per year, according to United Nations report: www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
2) Destroy the lives of, let's say, 2000000 Palestinians.
I would clearly go with the second option! After all, in the long term, if everything stays the same, in about 6000 years the damage inflicted by Hamas on humanity will be the same!
If you can inflict the same amount of damage in one week, why leave it for later?
PS Needless to say, that these 2000000 refugees better not try to find resort in the West... They dilute our humanitarian values and institutions! And why don't they go back to their country after all???
@h_heller said in #3:
> it won't happen, dude.
> but you know what did happen? Hamas locking up people in the north and stealing their car keys, blocking roads, ect, literally forcing them to be human shields in the battle field.
You forgot to mention the bikes. They stole all the kids' bikes!
These monsters force our honorable soldiers to kill their kids!
> it won't happen, dude.
> but you know what did happen? Hamas locking up people in the north and stealing their car keys, blocking roads, ect, literally forcing them to be human shields in the battle field.
You forgot to mention the bikes. They stole all the kids' bikes!
These monsters force our honorable soldiers to kill their kids!
@ed01106 said in #5:
> If Israel drops a bomb on a car driven a by a mass murderer and his 16 year old son (who is training to be a terrorist) is in the car, Israel is targeting children.
And the passerby (who are also training to become terrorists).
> If Israel drops a bomb on a car driven a by a mass murderer and his 16 year old son (who is training to be a terrorist) is in the car, Israel is targeting children.
And the passerby (who are also training to become terrorists).
proverb
Peace is obtainable when the palistinions want peace. Live peace.And Live in peace.
Look at other peoples that lost when they went to war, putting down the weapons asking for peace and living in peace has gotten there land back and peace.
But they would rather fight and lose.
Peace is obtainable when the palistinions want peace. Live peace.And Live in peace.
Look at other peoples that lost when they went to war, putting down the weapons asking for peace and living in peace has gotten there land back and peace.
But they would rather fight and lose.
@justme23 said in #9:
> proverb
> Peace is obtainable when the palistinions want peace. Live peace.And Live in peace.
> Look at other peoples that lost when they went to war, putting down the weapons asking for peace and living in peace has gotten there land back and peace.
> But they would rather fight and lose.
Let's face it. Poetry is not your strength.
> proverb
> Peace is obtainable when the palistinions want peace. Live peace.And Live in peace.
> Look at other peoples that lost when they went to war, putting down the weapons asking for peace and living in peace has gotten there land back and peace.
> But they would rather fight and lose.
Let's face it. Poetry is not your strength.
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