Through casual observation it would appear lots of us here like to argue. We all do it for different reasons but what's the point? And am I wrong?
Well i'm not going to argue with that. :).
@spidersneedlovetoo said in #1:
> Through casual observation it would appear lots of us here like to argue. We all do it for different reasons but what's the point? And am I wrong?
In most things it's simply a psychological matter, but there are issues that are more than that, for example if someone denied the Holocaust, you wouldn't argue with them, so there are people here and there who both sides feel the same way.
> Through casual observation it would appear lots of us here like to argue. We all do it for different reasons but what's the point? And am I wrong?
In most things it's simply a psychological matter, but there are issues that are more than that, for example if someone denied the Holocaust, you wouldn't argue with them, so there are people here and there who both sides feel the same way.
I gotta get some wins and it's unlikely to happen on a chess board.
Chessplayers are always like that. It's like dinner at Woody Allen's house.
Nah you're not. I think I am one of them. Guilty as charged. I've been told by people that I like to debate, and that's true :) Not up for formal debates, but I like good arguments or discussions.
Usually, it's fun and learning for both parties in a good argument if intellectual honesty and mutual respect are maintained. And everyone can learn something new from these. I enjoy and cherish those kind of arguments. Arguing just for the sake of arguing, however, is neither fun nor cool.
Usually, it's fun and learning for both parties in a good argument if intellectual honesty and mutual respect are maintained. And everyone can learn something new from these. I enjoy and cherish those kind of arguments. Arguing just for the sake of arguing, however, is neither fun nor cool.
Arguing is the healthiest thing!
Science = arguing
We cannot advance without arguing.
Egoism is the problem.
So the question is why so egoist? Why we don't want to be proven wrong? I would argue that the main reason is that we are raised in a society that penalizes being wrong and awards being right ignoring the intention to a large extent. Our whole education system is based on this idea. As a result being right translates to being superior and being wrong to being inferior.
Now, one can ask what should we do instead? Award someone for being wrong and penalize them for being right?? Well, there are more options than that. For start, let's just not penalize someone just for being wrong. If someone tries but fails, then we should just offer more help. The idea is that not only people should not feel the need to hide from others that they were wrong, but they should feel that they will be benefitted by admitting it.
Without wanting to expand, I would summarize my proposal to penalizing the intention instead of the result. And I am fully aware of the complications that come with it (like the difficulty of proving one's intention).
Science = arguing
We cannot advance without arguing.
Egoism is the problem.
So the question is why so egoist? Why we don't want to be proven wrong? I would argue that the main reason is that we are raised in a society that penalizes being wrong and awards being right ignoring the intention to a large extent. Our whole education system is based on this idea. As a result being right translates to being superior and being wrong to being inferior.
Now, one can ask what should we do instead? Award someone for being wrong and penalize them for being right?? Well, there are more options than that. For start, let's just not penalize someone just for being wrong. If someone tries but fails, then we should just offer more help. The idea is that not only people should not feel the need to hide from others that they were wrong, but they should feel that they will be benefitted by admitting it.
Without wanting to expand, I would summarize my proposal to penalizing the intention instead of the result. And I am fully aware of the complications that come with it (like the difficulty of proving one's intention).
arguing is beta
@Loosy said in #7:
> Arguing is the healthiest thing!
> [...]
> Without wanting to expand, I would summarize my proposal to penalizing the intention instead of the result. And I am fully aware of the complications that come with it (like the difficulty of proving one's intention).
Can you restore that in Politics?
> Arguing is the healthiest thing!
> [...]
> Without wanting to expand, I would summarize my proposal to penalizing the intention instead of the result. And I am fully aware of the complications that come with it (like the difficulty of proving one's intention).
Can you restore that in Politics?
@bfchessguy said in #9:
> Can you restore that in Politics?
Very good question!
And I would respond "Particularly in Politics!".
But I am not argumentative enough to attempt to tackle this issue here! But that's my shortcoming...
> Can you restore that in Politics?
Very good question!
And I would respond "Particularly in Politics!".
But I am not argumentative enough to attempt to tackle this issue here! But that's my shortcoming...
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