What to do ended up doing this.... should be a draw right!!
White cannot win that endgame, but black obviously can (as demonstrated) so it's not an automatic draw.
If you're not interested in trying to flag your opponent in a drawn endgame, you can always offer a draw.
If you're not interested in trying to flag your opponent in a drawn endgame, you can always offer a draw.
Wait, dis no crazyhouse
yes i love antichess
Hilarious! :D
White has to force a stalemate to get his draw.
I got a question, too: How is it possible to use the board editor for a variants game?
It would be interesting what the evaluation would be for a "horde" setting starting out from the standard position with a missing king for one side.
White has to force a stalemate to get his draw.
I got a question, too: How is it possible to use the board editor for a variants game?
It would be interesting what the evaluation would be for a "horde" setting starting out from the standard position with a missing king for one side.
Set up the position like in normal chess, click Analysis Board, then edit the url: add /horde and manually change the K in RNBQKBNR to 1 (as the board editor rejects positions with missing kings)
lichess.org/analysis/rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR_w_KQkq_-
lichess.org/analysis/horde/rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQ1BNR_w_KQkq_-
lichess.org/analysis/rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR_w_KQkq_-
lichess.org/analysis/horde/rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQ1BNR_w_KQkq_-
Tricky instruction, thanks @Vempele !
This opens up new possibilities for other daft variants. :D
Even it can be mated Stockfish regards the king as more valuable than 3 pawns. This position is quite balanced (no, its not standard chess!):
lichess.org/analysis/horde/rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQNBNR_w_kq_-_0_1
This opens up new possibilities for other daft variants. :D
Even it can be mated Stockfish regards the king as more valuable than 3 pawns. This position is quite balanced (no, its not standard chess!):
lichess.org/analysis/horde/rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQNBNR_w_kq_-_0_1
@Mollus Notice that Stockfish for Horde doesn't evaluate quite in the same way as SF for classical, e.g. pawn structure is not evaluated the same, there is a bonus to black for getting to the first rank, etc. I'm not sure which engine is loaded in the "from position" `/variant` analysis board, but you may get weird evals for that reason.
I remember trying to set up a horde position _with_ a white king, with classical rules (so both mates being possible), but couldn't due to pawns not being allowed on the first rank I think. Using @Vempele's trick works it seems : lichess.org/analysis/rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/1PP2PP1/PPPPPPPP/PPPPPPPP/PPPPPPPP/PPPPKPPP_w_kq_-_0_1
(Notice here that the classical engine is used and says -15 but if you play it out as a horde game you can in fact win the game as white.)
I remember trying to set up a horde position _with_ a white king, with classical rules (so both mates being possible), but couldn't due to pawns not being allowed on the first rank I think. Using @Vempele's trick works it seems : lichess.org/analysis/rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/1PP2PP1/PPPPPPPP/PPPPPPPP/PPPPPPPP/PPPPKPPP_w_kq_-_0_1
(Notice here that the classical engine is used and says -15 but if you play it out as a horde game you can in fact win the game as white.)
Oh yes,lol I was playing a lot of crazygouse before, so. SORRY :)
Good addition @lecw you are right. I'm surprised Stockfish does not refuse to analyze your position because with the white king it is obvious an impossible horde position and with the pawn on the back rank it's the same for standard. (I know that my position is also impossible, but not obviously for the engine)
It appears your position is as far as you can call it a "standard" game, Stockfish "standard" doesn't seem to have a problem with pawns on the 1th rank.
It appears your position is as far as you can call it a "standard" game, Stockfish "standard" doesn't seem to have a problem with pawns on the 1th rank.
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