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Initial ratings for novices (discussion towards feature request)

Hello, amazing work Lichess/Lila folks. One place that I've noticed some frustration among very novice friends I've brought here to the site is the frustration of starting at 1500, which is an extremely high rating for a brand new player or very young player who is still learning how knights move etc., Generally their first four or five games are pure slaughters (maybe against a 1550 player, then after 150pt rating loss, against a 1400, then 1200, then 1000, then 800, then finally at around 700 or so which is about the right skill level to be fun). All of which can be extremely discouraging for a new player to begin with five or so games where you never stood a chance. Plus it can be a waste of time for other players (except to welcome someone new to the community).

Some ideas for alleviating this might include:
1) (easiest to add) let someone choose between two or three or so options on signing up for the site such as "Just Learning the Rules" "Know the Rules but Played Less than 100 games" "Average Player (or above)" and assign initial ratings of 700, 1000, or 1500 based on those answers.
2) (moderate to add) Ask people (optionally) to solve some chess puzzles, from the most basic you could imagine to more complex, and assign a rating based on that. (Problem is that I don't know if there is an "easiest" level that wouldn't still be discouraging for brand new beginners)
3) (most complex but would be the best and better than the competition) -- ask if the new user wants to start with an unrated game against the computer. Start the computer at a low level (1200-1500) and then adjust the AI up or down so that the +/- analysis remains close to zero (ideally, optimally, letting the player win eventually). So the player blunders their rook in move 5; instead of taking it, the computer adjusts to a lower and lower difficulty level until the game is even, and whatever the median difficulty level across the game determines the initial rating. So essentially every game from the first encounter in the site on is a competitive game. Downside: lots of programming, and I'm not sure Lichess has AIs at sufficiently low levels (another feature request).
This is a very specific request, but I would like to add that many people should play casual first then, when they are comfortable rated.
I just saw this.
Being slightly ... whiskey... I did not read all of it ...yes definitely 1500 is far too difficult
I was wondering why there were no selectable options. When you sign up at Chess.com you choose between New to Chess, Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, and Expert. This assigns you a rating between 800 and 1800. I don't think the last two options are wise as puzzle rating isn't necessarily an indicator of playing strength and even at low levels, the computer can find killer moves from time to time given that the artificial weakening on Stockfish is just simple math that tells it to pick moves with a poor scoring eval sometimes rather than a more robust Elo emulation option which are still almost never any good. Have you suggested that your friends complete all of the lessons under Chess Basics and Practice before they start playing others?
Sertai: "many people should play casual first then, when they are comfortable rated" : it's a good idea but i think this just prolongs the problem that it will be hard to find people to play with at a similar level unless people have ratings assigned. To TPP-Social -- I don't think that the strategy for getting people to fall in love with chess is that you need to do a lot of drills (it's a lot to get to even 1000) before we want you to play an actual game. Lichess could decide it doesn't want to be a place that welcomes new players, but I hope it doesn't. The welcoming environment here is one reason I love it.
@mscuthbert I was just asking if you had suggested it. I didn't mean it was a requirement. I just think it's a good idea to know some fundamentals before playing the game and think it makes it more fun. That's why I teach the U1600 (USCF) class at my local chess center. I don't think you fall in love with chess by playing at the lowest level and then continuing to play at the lowest level. I don't think everyone should study intensely, but these lessons take a couple of hours.
I again suggest that the initial rating should display as 1500 ± 700
if the site started new players with rating other than 1500, then the site's average rating is going to change as well, and may cause a cascading effect across all users ratings.

lichess.org/stat/rating/distribution/blitz

right now 50% are below 1525, 50% are higher.
which means a player rated 1600 is a bit above average, 1400 is a bit below average.

changes to the starting rating may affect the whole rating economy.

butterfly effect
@TPP-Social
i am not sure it does count provisional rating either, but my point is,
all users start with rating of 1500, then as users start playing, some users rating goes up, and others goes down, while maintaining an average of 1500 overall

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