The Atheists Guide to Dealings with the Metaphysically Retarded

@Ameershahul29 said in #29:
> God is existing
> Let's say you were robbed by a very powerfull man and nothing can be done since he has everything I his pockets.... you won't be able to deal or give or take revenge
> But God can on the day of judgement

God exists for the one who believes that they exist and they don't exist for the one who refuses their existence. You can't just force people to believe in the existence of God, also you don't have any specific proof.

one of the bigger barriers to accepting such a thing as god for me is how it fails to match up to the occult saying as above so below , especially when its a monotheistic patriachal religion (one god and its a male entity )
who creates life , a woman , (as above so below)
ive never heard of any bloke giving birth , but we are led to believe , that a male diety did it all on his lonesome , i think thats bollocks so ive rejected judaism . islam and christianity for this core myth they put forward
hence religiously im pagan , and bow to mother earth ,

@FutureAstronomer don't you think that things exist independently of our belief our knowledge? Before Generalised Relativity predicted black holes, they didn't exist?

@MrPlancktonius said in #47:
> The atheist can't logically know the god he rejects. He can only reject senseless matchstick depictions of god that have been made by others.

LOL. Of course atheists don't make up their own gods. They just reject gods that others claim to be existent.

It is not important if these gods - in your certainly well-founded opinion - are only matchstick depictions of a god or if they - equally in your certainly well-founded opinion - perfectly reflect the image of the one and only true god. We reject them all.

atheists tend to well understand what they reject mate , unlike the devout they will question every aspect of a deity , and not rely on blind faith as proof of existance of such ,
but after all these milennia its a shame that a believer and non believer struggle to discuss without it turning into a flame war esp online
this keeps us divided , in a tug of war if you will , or the modern term , echo chambers were we only hear what we want to and stick our fingers in our ears to alternative viewpoints , and so we stay divided ,
such a shame as we are all one race after all the human race

@Katzenschinken said in #10:
> Really? Since when is atheism a theory?
>
> I always thought it is simply about the question: "Do I believe in a supernatural being?" And answering that question with: "No, I don't."

Eventually everything is just theories (this to, but the teory of everything being theories is quite likely to be true), atheism is a theory because then you believe that there is no god, agnosticism is a theory, because then you believe that you don't know wether there exist a god or not, and religion is a theory because then you believe that God exist. When you throw something up into the air you do not know that it will fall down again, it is just something we believe, just a theory.

Another thing i want to make clear is that there is many things we can't understand. Imagine a 2d-person living in a 2d world, this person would not be able to understand how the world can be 3d, because for him/her there is no more than 2d, and what now if the 2d world actually was a 3d world just that he/she percieved it as a 2d-world. And imagine a person living in a colorless world... Or a world where there were no sounds... And what if there is the same for us, that it is many things we can't possibly understand. For example either something must to have existed forever, or something must have came out of nothing. Both seem impossible to us, but that does not necessarily mean that those things really are impossible.

@Katzenschinken said in #54:
> It is not important if these gods - in your certainly well-founded opinion - are only matchstick depictions of a god or if they - equally in your certainly well-founded opinion - perfectly reflect the image of the one and only true god. We reject them all.
Cool. I don't see the point of talking "God" either.
@sabutuma "paganism" - Yes. If I had to describe my perceptions, I'd probably go with "pagan as hell".

hell is a concept , i think it first came by its name from the greeks , they had a word called hel if my memory of greek myths is right (gonna factcheck that ) brb

ah no its in nordic mythology ,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(being)
but the concept now is a place of punishment for sins
but who makes those rules ? oh yeah the priests , why ? as a way to enforce morality in society or a way to put the fear of god into an innocent , probably a bit of both i bet ,

so who gave the priests authority to threaten any who came within earshot of being tortured by a devil with a pitchfork for eons ?
some bloke no one can see who lives up in the clouds ,
something about that just doesnt ring true does it , unless you have blind faith
or a different view , the state gave priests this power , the priests then held an elevated status in the state where they need not work , yet got waited on hand and foot , but they fulfilled the role of keeping everyone else bar the state as subservient meek compliant , regardless whatever wacky new rule they came up with to prevent eternal damnation , such as the eating of shellfish ,(forbidden in the bible )
now that seems to me to have church bells ringing constantly in truth