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That's why I said designed to out-calculate a variant based on an inaccurate move, that can be any position, if humans learned to calculate just as well as modules this wouldn't be the case, there's been games between humans and modules won by humans, like Hikaru Nakamura beating Fritz and Andrew Tang defeating Leela Chess Zero, in both cases the modules didn't exactly play the best moves so intuition prevailed. Also, Alphazero wasn't taught by a human to play chess but the algorithms written in its code certainly were programmed by humans, so who should I trust, the human ability to perform in scientific grounds or an skeptic comment based on a brief evaluation of a logic which can also be optimized? I hold my opinion as much as you can disagree with it, but still can learn from both concepts, don't give much credit to machines, after all they're just a projection of human mind and all we learn from them has been through the efforts of people who dedicated their lives to design such tools, also I don't even want to argue this in a forum which is all about chess so don't expect me to reply much
Chess is 30 to 40% psychology. You don't have it against a computer, you can't fool it (judit polgar, chess great master).
If human learned to run faster than a formula one, they would outspeed formula one.

I am not denying that so far human beings can do more things than machines (but it is not unreasonable to think that in the future, human will have programmed some machines that can do anything a human can do, but better - including programming other machines). I'm just saying *at chess* machines have outplayed humans, and there is no coming back. Of course Alphazero has been programmed by a human but what I'm saying is this human didn't have to know anything about chess except the basic rules. All the machine ability to play chess was built by the machine just from the basic rules of chess (actually it was first programmed for go, then by replacing the rules of go by that of chess in the program, they got AlphaZero for chess).
Modules are generally better at calculations indeed but what's the purpose to have a chess-playing machine if it's not for the improvement of human chess players? Just as humans didn't need to run faster than a cheetah to create formula one to improve human range of transportation speed, it's acceptable that such inventions are in favor of enhancing human abilities and hopefully such technology as chess modules can be better understandable as humanity evolves, I mean, there shouldn't be a problem with machines as long as it's for optimization of human lifestyle, and even I dream of a holographic chess set to play with voice dictation, but overall it's always about the fun in the game so people can learn from its elements even if modules are not easy to surpass, there could even be an idea to organize chess tournaments of humans versus modules or something alike, but only history will tell, regards
"But what's the purpose to have a chess-playing machine if it's not for the improvement of human chess players?"

Welcome to the 21st century.

"To create formula one to improve human range of transportation speed"

Do you know anyone owning a formula one and driving it in its everyday life?
No, I don't know anyone owning an F-1 but I'm sure that technology hasn't been applied only in those type of vehicles, and no I don't know what kind of vehicles if you want to ask anything else quoting me to argue about off-topic themes lol, don't mind about this man, enjoy life!
I was wondering how chess players, who lost to the "Turk" long ago...felt about losing to a machine. :]
Interesting question. Before realizing that the Turk was a fraud, I think players were probably amazed at the development of such an 'intelligent machine' and wanted to learn how it worked, nevertheless, after discovering how it worked they were probably disappointed at the human trickery, but I don't know, there could have been a mix of* feelings between people as always there is, maybe some just wanted to burn its designer, others applaud him for his ingenuity or whatever, certainly the Turk must've inspired the development of other machines and conceived the early idea of an artificial intelligence.
Excuse me, I'm not very good with English. But why is this off-topic?

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