I tried to play Lichess on Linux, and pieces seem to move much faster. However, ping is the same. It feels as if emergence of pieces and sound would happen (come to view) faster. Did anyone who tried to play on the both systems notice something like this?
This is NOTHING to do with Linux.
It has EVERYTHING to do with your browser, connection, memory (and overhead), etc...
I have been a WinBloze user in the past. (And I have played on LiChess using both FireFox and Chrome on Windows.) The more browser windows and tabs I have open, the more stuff I have going on in the background, the slower the response is. Especially if I have large amounts of network activity (and browser activity). Same holds for both WinBloze and Linux (and Mac) -- boiling down to the browser and memory footprint per whatever kernel and binary optimizations.
No matter WinBloze, Mac, Linux, if I play with a clean browser cache/session, and I don't have a lot going on in the background, the responsiveness is as you have observed (faster).
All things are not equal. This is to say FireFox on Linux vs. FireFox on WinBloze have roughly the same performance (in terms of binary considerations). One may be faster than the other through whatever build or stability optimizations. (This can sometimes depend on the Linux build, kernel, memory allocation, memory tables, specific browser instance and its build, etc.) Sometimes the static WinBloze binaries may be faster than say, running a dedicated Quebes Linux browser, etc. (Because of proxy considerations.) Then you've got network considerations (how WinBloze does firewalls versus Linux).
Likely: You "tried" Linux, and because you didn't have a bunch of other crap going on (i.e. WinBloze), it seemed faster (probably based on memory footprint and/or the Linux Distro you used, and the browser you used). That doesn't necessarily make it faster. If you do the same things that WinBloze does to the browser (or its binary) and the background processes (i.e. network and firewall), and you'll likely notice a slight decrease in performance on Linux, but nothing significant. And the same, vice-versa, if you were to implement what WinBloze does behind the scenes, but in Linux -- you'd get the same expected result.
Again: Your Linux experience has absolutely nothing to do with your specific Browser experience. (Because of many nuanced technical details.)
What if you were to clean-up a WinBloze instance to stock and then further optimize it (along the lines of optimized Linux kernel binaries for optimal memory footprint per expected network considerations) ... you'd probably notice the same responsiveness.
(Most people don't like in-depth technical details, but, hey, whatever. Let's not split hairs here, Linux IS better than WinBloze. That's why Micro$uck is moving more toward *nix philosophy in terms of deployment, and implementing its own software stack -- on Linux / BSD.)
Further, it depends on the specific browser. Which browser were you using (on Windows? on Linux?) ... and what Linux Distro, etc? (You have to put things into CONTEXT.)
It has EVERYTHING to do with your browser, connection, memory (and overhead), etc...
I have been a WinBloze user in the past. (And I have played on LiChess using both FireFox and Chrome on Windows.) The more browser windows and tabs I have open, the more stuff I have going on in the background, the slower the response is. Especially if I have large amounts of network activity (and browser activity). Same holds for both WinBloze and Linux (and Mac) -- boiling down to the browser and memory footprint per whatever kernel and binary optimizations.
No matter WinBloze, Mac, Linux, if I play with a clean browser cache/session, and I don't have a lot going on in the background, the responsiveness is as you have observed (faster).
All things are not equal. This is to say FireFox on Linux vs. FireFox on WinBloze have roughly the same performance (in terms of binary considerations). One may be faster than the other through whatever build or stability optimizations. (This can sometimes depend on the Linux build, kernel, memory allocation, memory tables, specific browser instance and its build, etc.) Sometimes the static WinBloze binaries may be faster than say, running a dedicated Quebes Linux browser, etc. (Because of proxy considerations.) Then you've got network considerations (how WinBloze does firewalls versus Linux).
Likely: You "tried" Linux, and because you didn't have a bunch of other crap going on (i.e. WinBloze), it seemed faster (probably based on memory footprint and/or the Linux Distro you used, and the browser you used). That doesn't necessarily make it faster. If you do the same things that WinBloze does to the browser (or its binary) and the background processes (i.e. network and firewall), and you'll likely notice a slight decrease in performance on Linux, but nothing significant. And the same, vice-versa, if you were to implement what WinBloze does behind the scenes, but in Linux -- you'd get the same expected result.
Again: Your Linux experience has absolutely nothing to do with your specific Browser experience. (Because of many nuanced technical details.)
What if you were to clean-up a WinBloze instance to stock and then further optimize it (along the lines of optimized Linux kernel binaries for optimal memory footprint per expected network considerations) ... you'd probably notice the same responsiveness.
(Most people don't like in-depth technical details, but, hey, whatever. Let's not split hairs here, Linux IS better than WinBloze. That's why Micro$uck is moving more toward *nix philosophy in terms of deployment, and implementing its own software stack -- on Linux / BSD.)
Further, it depends on the specific browser. Which browser were you using (on Windows? on Linux?) ... and what Linux Distro, etc? (You have to put things into CONTEXT.)
yes it happens......because linux use less resources and background memory than windows and mac........i am parrot/windows user btw........unlike linux windows is not open source...so we don't know what's going on behind the screen.........
Thanks for the answers. I'm afraid I don't remember certainly what browser I used, but I tried Linux Mint MATE 17.1 32-bit on a live USB on a 2-core laptop. I tried both FireFox and Chromium there, though they were outdated. I think I first noticed the seeming increase in speed on FireFox, though I used Chromium later, and since I don't remember that it was any different, it should have been happening on both browsers, I guess.
Right now I use Windows 7 64-bit on a 4-core computer, with Chrome browser. However, I don't see strongly different situation on FireFox on the same system. The current computer has more power than the one I tried Linux Mint on.
Right now I use Windows 7 64-bit on a 4-core computer, with Chrome browser. However, I don't see strongly different situation on FireFox on the same system. The current computer has more power than the one I tried Linux Mint on.
Everything is faster on Linux. Especially one's descend to insanity. Love it.
Strangely, I just noticed the same thing while using VPN. Seeming increase in speed (but only against Stockfish, while it decreases against other players). Though it shows much higher ping. I didn't use VPN on Linux. At least not that I'm aware of.
Same settings? (Speed of animation can be changed in settings)
Yes, same Lichess settings.
This is playing against Stockfish with VPN:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTZBIdCwdmk
And this is without:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKb6-qOH3Dg
Somehow Stockfish (or game) is much faster with VPN. Despite this, ping is shown to be higher, and VPN decreases speed against human opponents.
This is playing against Stockfish with VPN:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTZBIdCwdmk
And this is without:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKb6-qOH3Dg
Somehow Stockfish (or game) is much faster with VPN. Despite this, ping is shown to be higher, and VPN decreases speed against human opponents.
I am getting a good laugh
So I've made better tests. I tried this on two different computers. Linux Mint MATE 18.3. On both Chrome and Firefox. On Windows lag is 215ms. On Linux 105ms. This happens on both computers. This seems to be a general Windows issue, because on every computer with Windows this lag feels equally. When I try Linux, the lag reduces in half. In this thread I explained it in more details: lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/vpn-accelerates-games-against-stockfish?page=2#14.
Apparently there is some problem with Windows network settings, but I have no idea how to fix that.
Apparently there is some problem with Windows network settings, but I have no idea how to fix that.
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