In physics, there are principles. principle of least action in variational formulation (maybe need translation in English), as a corrolary to physical laws. I don't recall the details, but I think it was related potential energy, conservation of total energy, and entropy (there is friction, or heat goes from hot to cold).
What is really axiomatic in physics. There exist a universe that can be tested reproducibly, and that sensory measures can be used to express that, and such measures, can in turn be expressed as mathematical equations, with some measurable bound on certainty of the values entering those equations as constants, and also on the variables under evolution (if time dependent variable). Empiricism is the axiom here. minimalist. everyone with enough logic can end up agreeing with how they feed the laws of physics. Given that empirical axiom, the laws of physics become theorems. and so would the principle of least action.
Are there other principles in science, which might not be a theorem (i.e. a pair of condition and consequence, where condition can be tested, not needed to be taken as axiom).
Sometimes some people create axioms to get the theorems they want. And later, some other people, find out that these new axioms, could actually be deduced from others already used in mathematics for example. Then that axiom is more like a theorem. There is nothing preventing anyone from keeping it as an axiom, whether deducible, it is also compatible, and probably more useful than its logical antecedent (probably more abstract, and unreadable).
Where am i going? So that axiom is now theorem, there is no need to make another leap of faith, if its container was already accepted. I guess acceptation is a better term than belief, which is now always used with the intention to minimize the amount of statements to be taken as true without proof.
asking the ether, anybody knows of principles which can't be deduced from others? that act like axiom. entrants to the science where they are used.
Occams' razor. is that a principle? It is an aesthetical choice, often best used in the wheel of science which is dynamic, so even if used in error, our small brain prefer to chop the complex reality that way, until empirical data suggest otherwise.
What is really axiomatic in physics. There exist a universe that can be tested reproducibly, and that sensory measures can be used to express that, and such measures, can in turn be expressed as mathematical equations, with some measurable bound on certainty of the values entering those equations as constants, and also on the variables under evolution (if time dependent variable). Empiricism is the axiom here. minimalist. everyone with enough logic can end up agreeing with how they feed the laws of physics. Given that empirical axiom, the laws of physics become theorems. and so would the principle of least action.
Are there other principles in science, which might not be a theorem (i.e. a pair of condition and consequence, where condition can be tested, not needed to be taken as axiom).
Sometimes some people create axioms to get the theorems they want. And later, some other people, find out that these new axioms, could actually be deduced from others already used in mathematics for example. Then that axiom is more like a theorem. There is nothing preventing anyone from keeping it as an axiom, whether deducible, it is also compatible, and probably more useful than its logical antecedent (probably more abstract, and unreadable).
Where am i going? So that axiom is now theorem, there is no need to make another leap of faith, if its container was already accepted. I guess acceptation is a better term than belief, which is now always used with the intention to minimize the amount of statements to be taken as true without proof.
asking the ether, anybody knows of principles which can't be deduced from others? that act like axiom. entrants to the science where they are used.
Occams' razor. is that a principle? It is an aesthetical choice, often best used in the wheel of science which is dynamic, so even if used in error, our small brain prefer to chop the complex reality that way, until empirical data suggest otherwise.