@AndrewMolloy Never assume!
@AndrewMolloy said in #1:
> I always assume most chess players are rational, objective and growth-mindset in outlook so it amazes me how many of my opponents only rematch when they win and fail to rematch when they lose. Also just had an opponent who was rematching against me repeatedly in a match where I was consistently ahead. As soon my opponent got in the lead they refused to rematch.
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> It happens A LOT. Is there anyone on here going to admit to doing it and explain their reasons?
i systematically enjoy rematches and offer them (i guess that was asking all that time, huh!). correspondence mindset. i have 6 games in parallel, and if one opponent would rather not keep on, i can go random mixing, or randomly ask someone: I use inbox to make sure i am not imposing.
I have not seen a case of win or lose dependency on my asking or others refusing or accepting, and sometimes even asking before i could ask.
I think this may depend on how many games per day one is playing.. But i would expect players to at least allow one rematch if not 2. if time permits.. or postponed.... what is so touchy about re-matching? I never understood.
I have heard complaints in the other direction.. "sore looser" not accepting defeat kind of stuff. I was surprised by op talking about people only asking rematch when winning and not losing (if no inversion of intent).
> I always assume most chess players are rational, objective and growth-mindset in outlook so it amazes me how many of my opponents only rematch when they win and fail to rematch when they lose. Also just had an opponent who was rematching against me repeatedly in a match where I was consistently ahead. As soon my opponent got in the lead they refused to rematch.
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> It happens A LOT. Is there anyone on here going to admit to doing it and explain their reasons?
i systematically enjoy rematches and offer them (i guess that was asking all that time, huh!). correspondence mindset. i have 6 games in parallel, and if one opponent would rather not keep on, i can go random mixing, or randomly ask someone: I use inbox to make sure i am not imposing.
I have not seen a case of win or lose dependency on my asking or others refusing or accepting, and sometimes even asking before i could ask.
I think this may depend on how many games per day one is playing.. But i would expect players to at least allow one rematch if not 2. if time permits.. or postponed.... what is so touchy about re-matching? I never understood.
I have heard complaints in the other direction.. "sore looser" not accepting defeat kind of stuff. I was surprised by op talking about people only asking rematch when winning and not losing (if no inversion of intent).
@bobflanagan1 said in #8:
> I prefer to immediately analyze my game versus doing a rematch, no matter if I won or lost.
@MenacingFierceTiger said in #7:
> I accept rematches almost always in causal games, but I don't necessarily offer them. But in rated games I almost never accept rematches because I usually play 1 rated game at a time, analyse it and not play another one until later or on a different day to avoid tilt, with the exception of when I'm in an arena or I'm having a good day.
Same here, I like to immediately analyze the game while it is fresh in my mind. That said, I have occasionally offered or accepted rematches (they seem to be offered rather infrequently so far). I'm more likely to do an immediate rematch if I played reasonably well (win or lose), but if something is really bugging me about the game I'd rather analyze right then.
> I prefer to immediately analyze my game versus doing a rematch, no matter if I won or lost.
@MenacingFierceTiger said in #7:
> I accept rematches almost always in causal games, but I don't necessarily offer them. But in rated games I almost never accept rematches because I usually play 1 rated game at a time, analyse it and not play another one until later or on a different day to avoid tilt, with the exception of when I'm in an arena or I'm having a good day.
Same here, I like to immediately analyze the game while it is fresh in my mind. That said, I have occasionally offered or accepted rematches (they seem to be offered rather infrequently so far). I'm more likely to do an immediate rematch if I played reasonably well (win or lose), but if something is really bugging me about the game I'd rather analyze right then.
@AndrewMolloy said in #1:
> I always assume most chess players are rational, objective and growth-mindset in outlook so it amazes me how many of my opponents only rematch when they win and fail to rematch when they lose [...]
Then don't give them the rematches. Easy as that. I personally don't understand the notion of random rematches -- I totally dislike the act and encourage anyone here not to randomly rematch. It will bother you at some point, to a point, where you'll find yourself making a topic about it... You aren't the first, won't be the last, my good sir.
Countless players here to play against and one would chose to play against the same person (over and over) again?! Not only a total waste but also here we are pointlessly debating about the odd behaviors of one-sided-rematchers -- who do so till they grab a victory and vanish.
Rematch with someone you'd know, someone you'd arrange a set of games with; not with random players.
Play -> enjoy -> win/draw/lose -> deal with it -> move on -> and have a good day
> I always assume most chess players are rational, objective and growth-mindset in outlook so it amazes me how many of my opponents only rematch when they win and fail to rematch when they lose [...]
Then don't give them the rematches. Easy as that. I personally don't understand the notion of random rematches -- I totally dislike the act and encourage anyone here not to randomly rematch. It will bother you at some point, to a point, where you'll find yourself making a topic about it... You aren't the first, won't be the last, my good sir.
Countless players here to play against and one would chose to play against the same person (over and over) again?! Not only a total waste but also here we are pointlessly debating about the odd behaviors of one-sided-rematchers -- who do so till they grab a victory and vanish.
Rematch with someone you'd know, someone you'd arrange a set of games with; not with random players.
Play -> enjoy -> win/draw/lose -> deal with it -> move on -> and have a good day
@Zeoblade said in #14:
> I personally don't understand the notion of random rematches -- I totally dislike the act and encourage anyone here not to randomly rematch. It will bother you at some point, to a point, where you'll find yourself making a topic about it... You aren't the first, won't be the last, my good sir.
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> Countless players here to play against and one would chose to play against the same person (over and over) again?! Not only a total waste but also here we are pointlessly debating about the odd behaviors of one-sided-rematchers -- who do so till they grab a victory and vanish.
Once upon a time I thought the same thing: there is no value in replaying the same person multiple times, but after having done so a fair share of the time I changes my mind.
I think it's a better way to improve especially in fast games because by playing the same guy multiple times you can start to start to see pattern in his play, you understand what works or not against him and this specific preparation, this little mind gymnastic is not something we get to do often.
And even intuitively one can realize that training yourself to quickly recognize what the opponent is doing, is easier when we play the same opponent with the same strengths and weaknesses multiple times (of course without abusing the rematch feature).
> I personally don't understand the notion of random rematches -- I totally dislike the act and encourage anyone here not to randomly rematch. It will bother you at some point, to a point, where you'll find yourself making a topic about it... You aren't the first, won't be the last, my good sir.
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> Countless players here to play against and one would chose to play against the same person (over and over) again?! Not only a total waste but also here we are pointlessly debating about the odd behaviors of one-sided-rematchers -- who do so till they grab a victory and vanish.
Once upon a time I thought the same thing: there is no value in replaying the same person multiple times, but after having done so a fair share of the time I changes my mind.
I think it's a better way to improve especially in fast games because by playing the same guy multiple times you can start to start to see pattern in his play, you understand what works or not against him and this specific preparation, this little mind gymnastic is not something we get to do often.
And even intuitively one can realize that training yourself to quickly recognize what the opponent is doing, is easier when we play the same opponent with the same strengths and weaknesses multiple times (of course without abusing the rematch feature).
@petri999 said in #3:
> I always wondered why rational chess players bother themselves with re-matches. with unlimited supply of opponents whole feature is pretty much useless. Let alone pondering other player's motives is fruitless. That is only their concern not yours. Just press new-opponent button and move on
Some people (Like me) will ask for rematches if my opponent played an opening that I like playing against because I would like to practice that opening with a human, not stockfish.
> I always wondered why rational chess players bother themselves with re-matches. with unlimited supply of opponents whole feature is pretty much useless. Let alone pondering other player's motives is fruitless. That is only their concern not yours. Just press new-opponent button and move on
Some people (Like me) will ask for rematches if my opponent played an opening that I like playing against because I would like to practice that opening with a human, not stockfish.
I guess the problem is only in day games... not correspondence, where it does not make sense to oppose proposing a rematch versus analysis one game.. the time management is really independent there... a whole different world, with so much less stumbling grounds.....
I usually only play one game. one and done. but if I was to offer a rematch, I would be less likely to do it if I won. I'm playing people my own rating, I only won by chance, I wouldn't want to give them the opportunity to equalise.
analyze the game before you go rematch
FWIW -- About a week ago there was some similar discussion on the general issue of why some people don't rematch (the OP specified bullet but much of the discussion applied to other time formats as well): lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/a-request-for-everyone-who-plays-rate-bullet-games?page=1
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