A lifetime ban for cheating is too harsh

After all, how are cheaters discovered on the site?

#11 In profound and mysterious ways.

It's very similar to fishing.

lol

I don't believe in punishment. I believe in not getting paired with cheaters. I believe in getting rid of cheat-influenced accounts.

The whole problem with modern criminal justice is to lock people for punishment sake. Which looks natural to us, but is a very recent concept... and the reason why it's so little effective.

We gotta solve the problem, not punish what has already been done. People don't learn effectively from punishment.

And yeah, you always have a new chance. Just create a new account and don't cheat. It's not nearly like prison.

Actually I think is too soft. I would ban him forever and 5 lashes in the town square. Luckily for you lichess administrators are more civilized and nice than I.

In my opinion you should be first given a warning, and tuen over a new leaf. But, the second time you are banned, forever.

Yeah, the Code of Hammurabi is pretty new and so ineffective. /s

I'd like to agree with #15 however Lichess allows players to register anonymously, and unless that changes not much can be done to reform the current situation.

The problem with turning over a new leaf is that the leaf is already rotting on the underside. Once exposed to corrupted influence, always infested or eaten-away-at by the corrupting influence. The mushroom, feed it fetid, foul, festering funk, and it still grows, even in the dark.

I'm on-board with "lifetime" ban.

Doesn't change the fact that people can "re-brand" themselves. (I.e. new account.)

In truth, I don't understand why people would waste their time on such efforts. Objectively speaking, yeah, it might be a momentary "high" to cheat and win (or, get back at someone), but, that doesn't mean anything. It's temporary. Fleeting. You have to keep doing it to get that "high," especially after you cripple yourself by learning (teaching yourself) to think it gets you somewhere. It is a sickness. Sure, feels good for a moment, but, like any other addiction, takes control and people make excuses for their behavior. And like avoiding a "lifetime" ban with a new account, or leveraging other people's good nature (by promising not to re-offend) -- same addictive-type behavior.

Some people just can't help themselves. But you can't stop a fiend or addict from engaging in and indulging an addiction.

It's interesting to see how the global Go community learns to best make use of engines and (online) to deal with cheaters.

Hopefully their fate will be better than that of chess players.