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I cry foul, and hope against hope that powers that be fight the good fight to try and stop this

@Cedur216 said in #10:
> Too long to read modCheck
Uhmmm... isn’t there a be nice clause for forum?
most grandmasters started quite young, they see the game easier, and it all correlates with hard work
Somewhere in your original post you give the answer to your problem: "I am really easy to defeat".
I assume that explains why you lose. Maybe there are some few "ngn" users you face, but most of your losses will be due to your not so strong playing.
@Acerb8 Do you really think the vast majority of lichess players are cheaters? Regardless of the fact that my experience here is way different, as I very rarely had any suspicion of foul play by my opponents, and even regardless of whether you're right or wrong, I would argue that your approach is what is actually making your experience here miserable. Think about it as Pascal's wager: it's convenient to live and play as though cheaters don't exist, as no good can come from obsessing over the possibility that everyone you plays uses engine assistence, and the downsides are quite clear from your posts.
It the long posts above there were lots of unsupported claims. And what is claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. No discussion is necessary.

For the record, @Acerb8 participated in an online simul recently, the IM there got three loses and one of them was really suspicious.
most of lichess players cannot be cheating for simple fact that average lichess player is very weak. Median lichess player would be in bottom 25% in most of weekend tournaments. So if most of them cheat they freakingly bad at it.
Yes, I concede the point that I am just not good enough to worry whether or not my opponents are using assistance.

And so, my thoughts on this matter are unimportant, oh joy...
Let us just take a blind eye to such things, and to those who can beat stalkfish from someone’s phone this rationale just doesn’t work well, I have no interest in trying to play stalkfish in the first place, is my point.

Oh okay, let’s show everyone how dumb I am to be frustrated with my play and my willingness to blame everything else instead of my self...
Oh, the mystery has been solved it is me all along who cannot play chess, thanx, i hope you are pleased with yourselves, let’s debase the poster that will fix their little red wagon...

I am trying to get a little support, or a hug, and all I get is a punch in the face??? No wonder ...

What is wrong with trying to be supportive, let’s be negative and nasty that will make me feel better...

What? Can one be praised instead of insulted? Does no one ever think of how disappointed it is when one looks for succor and gets only poison?

Geez!!! Wait until you are hurt torn and broken and all you get is a kick to the head, how does that feel, oh.... If my chess were GM level and I make the same claim would you kick me when I’m down?

You are missing my point chessplayers,

But bash away, I am hopeless...

However, I seem to think that the issue is much less with what I am saying much more of you guys think using assistance is fair play, oh, your experiences are nothing compared to mine because you can play chess and I cannot?
I’m saying 15xx players that play like gods should not be 15xx
All up to what ever level you have attained, a player better than you should be at a higher rating than you
Not the same rating, why you cannot tell when a person is trolling the rating class with obvious better play than the level, or are you merely playing inferior players yourself?

Getting back to me, my incensed attitude is not made up purely by my inept play, for I routinely play much stronger players than I in casual event, and believe me there is a difference when a 17xx player plays like a 23xx player , I’m not just gasping for breath,
But, I should not complain about ngn use, and you making it sound like I’m purely a goofball...

Do you not watch chess streamers of whom have ability and run into suspicious players? Am I making it up?
And, are you not amused with yourselves, how about trying to allow me to get passed this mental fatigue instead of making it harder for me why is it the knee jerk response to tell the loser that they are a loser, what you have no empathy?

I have plenty of games I am happy with and stalkfish rips me anew pointing out my errors, but, you merely want to point out to all who follow such threads, how smart, better, and obvious superior than I , who completely ignores my chess ineptness , I who would like to blame everything else instead of myself....

I am to be satisfied with your snarky comments that does little to console me, why even bother yourselves with my obvious poorly planned chess ...

Yet, you felt deeply the need to make a jab, this speaks highly of your intellect, or lack thereof, perhaps you could use your superior thinking and guide me to a better place, but no, you’d rather think of the most disheartening things to say, remember the internet is forever, and you spent your youth being nasty to people crying about their fate...

Remember in twenty years how you were so sage and comforting, but wait... you don’t care because you don’t really think that it is you “really” responding, just an avatar... but remember this no matter what, you know it is you, you will always know what you did to that poor crazy guy spouting about how horrible their experience is...

But, I would like to thank @jeffsonadam , for he has picked up on the crux of the matter, in that it is I who is being miserable instead of enjoying myself... well said @jeffsonadam well said...8D
@jeffsonadam said in #14:
> @Acerb8 Do you really think the vast majority of lichess players are cheaters? Regardless of the fact that my experience here is way different, as I very rarely had any suspicion of foul play by my opponents, and even regardless of whether you're right or wrong, I would argue that your approach is what is actually making your experience here miserable. Think about it as Pascal's wager: it's convenient to live and play as though cheaters don't exist, as no good can come from obsessing over the possibility that everyone you plays uses engine assistence, and the downsides are quite clear from your posts.
Looking at some of your classical games here on lichess I could see that you play most games in about 2 to max 5 minutes, but many games you just take about 2 minutes. I recommend to take more time and see if it can make a difference regarding your perception of your opponents and their play.
The whole problem is that you're stuck in the 1600 range? Study more chess
@WildTiger said in #15:
> It the long posts above there were lots of unsupported claims. And what is claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. No discussion is necessary.
>
> For the record, @Acerb8 participated in an online simul recently, the IM there got three loses and one of them was really suspicious.
Uhmm, for the record @acerb8 has 23 thousand games played on lichess...
For the record... what tripe is this, you are asserting that I am stealing valor from another’s experience?
Such foolishness to point out unsupported claims??? Why say this when I’m am merely looking for support... what claims I have made are unsupported?
I cry foul is my only claim the rest can be crossed referenced and hold to be true, are there not 7 billion people? Are there not 20k chess masters?
Oh the issue is verbal diarrhea, oh let’s debase a writer who uses many words to cry their heart out... why even respond at all, if it is beneath you to be some how helpful
When you get to 20 thousand games and not feel that some of those just were not fair, then talk about my drivel, otherwise let’s try and talk about the issue of people using assistance, and if you have never done so, let me know this as fact...
Oh, okay no discussion is necessary, where did you read tha bit of nonsense, someone say it and you think it a smart thing to repeat? I bet most of your games played follow plenty of other games listed in the opening book, as you like to repeat lines that make you sound smart maybe you like to repeat games too?
It is not helpful for you to be so malicious and quickly dismiss me, what point is this you read posts and think oh wow, I can’t wait to repeat that then everyone will think of me as better than the poster oh boy!!!

You response makes no sense as it only shows how little you think for yourself, and this is not a dig on you, it is a dig on your inability to read what I wrote and come up with a fully thought out response, but, you felt responding was your need, and debasing is the solution... but I do get your point, we’re we be in a situation where logic settles an issue, go back to Aristotle , not everything in life can be measured by a man thousands of years dead

And for the record, I have played in 13 consecutive classical rated tournaments where I came in good stead, vs many much much stronger players, but you will point out that a potential trigger to my tirade is my witness of a master having to contend with a suspicious player... oh nice, let’s try and dismiss this nutty guy with the apparent ...

For your information, and for everyone who reads this, debasing someone with an incorrect manner is of no use, why even bother trying, when it is easier to let me debase my self as this responder does
@movingtargent said in #13:
> Somewhere in your original post you give the answer to your problem: "I am really easy to defeat".
> I assume that explains why you lose. Maybe there are some few "ngn" users you face, but most of your losses will be due to your not so strong playing.

@Acerb8

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