Creation vs. Atheism

Yet another "conversation" with a believer where the believer is not listening but only preaching. It is understandable considering that listening might make them question their religion. Still it amazes me how dogmatic some can be. Dogmatism kills thinking and makes you blind to other worldviews.

@BlackBishop9319 you can bring forth how many facts you like and interpret them as proofs. Remember however that
1) your proofs could equally well support some other religion
2) basically you can interpret any fact to support the idea of some unobservable, supernatural cause
Eg. Have you noticed how some pasta resembles dna? That's because the dna was created by a flying spaghetti monster.
That's about how ridiculous your "proofs" sound to anyone not sharing your need to believe.
3) you are referring to facts that you know only because of science. It's contradictory to praise science and thank it for its results, yet try to fight its method and applause thinking that disrespects scientific curiosity and humility.
4) there's some arrogance in demanding for the "first reason" that would explain everything, and yet refuse from explaining how then did your god come to be. A wild card that wins all the games. It's ok if you want to play cards but not if you want to have a conversation about the nature of the reality.

- I am a creationist, i a reformed

I used to be a creationist as I was raised that way.
However I realized that "god" is fictional, It's simply what Man does trying to reconcile the fact he has no purpose in the universe. You see most creationists believe that life doesn't end after death. However, let me explain something.
You see, after death you go to "heaven" and live there for eternity. But what is the point of living for eternity, eventually "god" will realize: what the hell, I am doing nothing the entire realm of the known is gone, he'll probably create more species because he'll be bored. After all, you'll never accomplish anything in the Universe, because nothing ever matters. In an atheism point of view, your simply atoms that get recycled and will never affect anything bigger. You're trapped in this reality forever.

Faith = A claim to knowledge without JUSTIFICATION
Believe = A claim to knowledge with some element of justification
Imperfect Knowledge = A claim to knowledge that is most likely true but could be false
Perfect Knowledge = A claim to knowledge in which it is IMPOSSIBLE for it to be false'

Conclusion:
NO ONE actually believes that the universe was created 6,000 years ago because there IS NO JUSTIFICATION for such a ridiculous claim. There is no evidence of such nonsense in the bible, or in science, or in general analytical thought!!!! Hence, the next time someone claims to have a belief in something ridiculous, tell them as follows, "YOU HAVE FAITH, NOT BELIEF!!!!".....and probably NOT EVEN a hypothesis!

I'm an ape. Wanna banana?

@CountGianMarcoDorio If you add up the dates that have been given in the Bible, it gives you a number around 4,000 years before Christ was born.

Some Atheists are just lost. They are children of God who have not received the word yet. They still have all the same feelings as God's children. Maybe calling them stupid isn't the best approach for God's people when referring to them.

Ephesians 3;20-21 says this about the world:

...Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, WORLD WITHOUT END. Amen.

@angrymonkey
You may have derived from pure monkey, but I'm RH- bloodtype and there's only place that could have originated....that's right....it's Neanderthal!

@BlackBishop9319
So....it would be a long and pointless waste of time to go through the Old Testament with you about whether certain time frames are so many thousands of years and whether the creation of man was merely a few days after the first day creating the Earth...etc. Here's what I will tell you. I work primarily for the Catholic Church. A job that I have is to research paranormal events that happen in people's lives that aren't necessarily miraculous yet at the same time don't fit into a scientific explanation. Part of my job requires me to have access to certain secret Vatican files on the Old Testament. The truth is that there's simply more to this reality than merely meets the eye especially in terms of the Torah. Here's another thing you should think about...it's only very crazy and illegitimate religious groups such as the Mormons, the Seventh Day Adventists, and groups like the Jehovah's Witnesses (that not even Hitler could force proper manners into) that believe crazy nonsensical things like having to do with the world being created 6.000 years ago or dinosaur bones put into rocks in order to test man's faith or any other ridiculous nonsense like that. My advice to you @BlackBishop9319 is to simply look at which Churches have within their walls the most charitable, wise, and knowledgeable "Christians." You're simply NOT going to find respectable leaders around the world holding to crazy beliefs having to do with being able to predict when the world is going to end or that the "Torah" is so PERFECT that we can calculate EXACTLY when the world was created. These kinds of things simply have NOTHING to do with Creationism vs Atheism or any other truly RELEVANT subject matter about God.

@CountGianMarcoDorio That doesn't mean you're not an ape. I'll eat your banana. Your loss.