@timdirk you're exactly the kind of person I'm not talking about. Almost nobody I play in blitz and bullet says anything in the chat, instead they just sit there, still on the game (green dot), but not doing anything. And the scenarios I'm describing are only frustrating in the many cases where we've already played multiple games together.
@Sarg0n If you read the OP you'll see that I'm only talking about cases in which we've already played multiple games together. I'm not "demanding" that anybody continue playing, I'm just trying to understand the psychology of why people reject rematch offers when they do. @Cagey offered very likely explanations.
@Rrhyddhad
There is no "moral" argument. It's a sportsmanship issue, especially if one secured a win, upon a first encounter, with the white pieces.
Perhaps some people, including myself, are old fashioned. I have been part of several chess clubs and routinely play in park events around NYC. A pair of games is considered by most people to be a fair arrangement, even if you are paired with a complete stranger. It is considered to be incredibly rude to win one game and to abruptly walk away, teeming with pride. And, in person, in clubs, if you develop that kind of reputation - well, good luck getting a game again with anyone. One may be a good attacker with white, but a poor defender with black. A turn with each color is fair, but not mandatory.
I understand this is an online community (with civility, presumably, being a non-starter). However, it doesn't have to be a constant cut-throat scramble for points to the detriment of the entire culture of chess.
Yes, everyone is out for themselves. Everyone is paranoid. Everyone is a scavenger. Fine. Everyone has the right to be that type of person.
But, should they be? Is that really what most people want? I, for one, do not.
There is no "moral" argument. It's a sportsmanship issue, especially if one secured a win, upon a first encounter, with the white pieces.
Perhaps some people, including myself, are old fashioned. I have been part of several chess clubs and routinely play in park events around NYC. A pair of games is considered by most people to be a fair arrangement, even if you are paired with a complete stranger. It is considered to be incredibly rude to win one game and to abruptly walk away, teeming with pride. And, in person, in clubs, if you develop that kind of reputation - well, good luck getting a game again with anyone. One may be a good attacker with white, but a poor defender with black. A turn with each color is fair, but not mandatory.
I understand this is an online community (with civility, presumably, being a non-starter). However, it doesn't have to be a constant cut-throat scramble for points to the detriment of the entire culture of chess.
Yes, everyone is out for themselves. Everyone is paranoid. Everyone is a scavenger. Fine. Everyone has the right to be that type of person.
But, should they be? Is that really what most people want? I, for one, do not.
There could be an option to seek series when we seek 10 games of 2+5 for example.
As things are there is no need to accept rematches.
As things are there is no need to accept rematches.
1. Play game of chess 2. Post game review 3. Post game analysis 4. Go outside and have a smoke 5. Do a couple of tactic puzzles 6. Watch a training video 7. Do some endgame exercises or survey some of Karpov games 8. Make a sandwich 9. Play game of chess 10. ( rinse, wash, & repeat... that's my routine in a nutshell) - REMATCHES DO NOT FIT INTO MY ROUTINE!!! IS THAT OKAY WITH ALL OF YOU BIG CRY BABIES?
As Cagey suggests, this no-rematch culture seems bizarre to people used to the over-the-board culture, where refusing at least one rematch in casual blitz/bullet is uncouth at best.
I would chalk it up to online chess culture being different, but all of the other sites I've played on over the years (ICC and even chess.com) seem to mostly follow over-the-board culture.
The interesting question is why lichess is different.
I would chalk it up to online chess culture being different, but all of the other sites I've played on over the years (ICC and even chess.com) seem to mostly follow over-the-board culture.
The interesting question is why lichess is different.
The number of games in the past doesn’t count at all. If there’s no open game everyone is free. There‘s simply nothing - he can play next whoever he wants to.
Really, really do not understans these rematch whiners. I agree to play ONE game. expecting more is just silly.
Even if I play second - given abundance of opponents - i prefre to play someone else.
so I do not rematch after a win nor loss.
And thats what on shoudl expect. You dont get rematches at club nights either. you move on to next opponent
Even if I play second - given abundance of opponents - i prefre to play someone else.
so I do not rematch after a win nor loss.
And thats what on shoudl expect. You dont get rematches at club nights either. you move on to next opponent
It's easy to argue past each other.
Sargon and the others are making one point, which is actually completely unrelated the original post - that is, "nobody is entitled to anything. Stop whining."
Fantastic. Nobody is debating that. You can continue having a debate with yourself and your less than articulate cheerleaders can drop in, here and there, with their own two cents about how everyone lamenting the degradation of chess culture is being a baby.
Give yourselves a pat on the back.
The OP and I, and some others, are making another point entirely - that is, online chess culture should mirror the way people behave in the real world, over the board. Civility and respect should be cultivated, not dispensed with.
If you want to call everyone a whiner and a baby, go right ahead. You are contributing nothing but negativity and displaying your immaturity, repeatedly.
@petri999
I don't know what clubs you go to, but if it is a casual night at the local club, you do get rematches. And, you also get them in a double-round robin event, which is common for shorter time controls.
Sargon and the others are making one point, which is actually completely unrelated the original post - that is, "nobody is entitled to anything. Stop whining."
Fantastic. Nobody is debating that. You can continue having a debate with yourself and your less than articulate cheerleaders can drop in, here and there, with their own two cents about how everyone lamenting the degradation of chess culture is being a baby.
Give yourselves a pat on the back.
The OP and I, and some others, are making another point entirely - that is, online chess culture should mirror the way people behave in the real world, over the board. Civility and respect should be cultivated, not dispensed with.
If you want to call everyone a whiner and a baby, go right ahead. You are contributing nothing but negativity and displaying your immaturity, repeatedly.
@petri999
I don't know what clubs you go to, but if it is a casual night at the local club, you do get rematches. And, you also get them in a double-round robin event, which is common for shorter time controls.
I have never seen a thread so full of bullshit. If one doesn't want a rematch, why are you pricks abusing him/her?
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