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@Nomoreusernames said in #17:
> Find the study and update us, as your own analysis is ridiculous.

why wasting my time if you're just going to dismisses everything because that's just troll do

> I want to be clear, I think you are not "on to something" everyone else has missed, you can't think properly and it is getting in the way of you making rational posts. It needs to be made clear to a new Lichess forum readers, that your personal mental facilities are not indicative of chess players here, or in general.

it's ironic that you contests everything and yet confirming my conclusions in the mean time.

you think you are special but you're engaging in very trivial activities online over and over for the sole purpose of convincing yourself that you're peculiar

all what you do in here is positioning yourself on the opposite side just for the sake of arguing
Not introvert... it's just when people around u just not civilized enough for interaction
And? Don't a bunch of other activities that involve being alone for long periods of time cause introvertedness as well?
@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>I'm sure we can find a serious study that finds more serial killers and criminals amongst chess players than the average population
@Nomoreusernames said in #17:
>Find the study and update us, as your own analysis is ridiculous.
@BeaverB1xQD8 said in #22:
>why wasting my time if you're just going to dismisses everything because that's just troll do
I provided a study on homicide which mentions causality such as organised crime, drugs, guns, sociopolitical reasons and armed conflict, but there is no mention of chess. Substantiating your assertions is not wasting time, it is to prevent yourself from making up rubbish and believing it. Plus you owe it to us, you said you are sure, so now it's up to you to make good on your statement.

@Nomoreusernames said in #17:
>I want to be clear, I think you are not "on to something" everyone else has missed, you can't think properly and it is getting in the way of you making rational posts. It needs to be made clear to a new Lichess forum readers, that your personal mental facilities are not indicative of chess players here, or in general.
@BeaverB1xQD8 said in #22:
>it's ironic that you contests everything and yet confirming my conclusions in the mean time.
You have no conclusions, you have assertions that there are more serial killers and criminals amongst chess players than the average population. It's just a crazy thought that you embarrassingly posted that to a forum for all to see.

@BeaverB1xQD8 said in #22:
>you think you are special but you're engaging in very trivial activities online over and over for the sole purpose of convincing yourself that you're peculiar
I am quite normal. You are not "on to something" everyone else has missed, you can't think properly and it is getting in the way of you making rational posts. It needs to be made clear to a new Lichess forum readers, that your personal mental facilities are not indicative of chess players here, or in general.

@BeaverB1xQD8 said in #22:
>all what you do in here is positioning yourself on the opposite side just for the sake of arguing
I am positioning myself as a normal person who plays chess sometimes. You have claimed that chess players are more likely to commit murder.

Now, apart from 1) the serious study that finds more serial killers and criminals amongst chess players than the average population that you owe us, and 2) acknowledgement that you are faking that you review CV's with your mental failings, it is worth pointing out that you failed to address the following fallacies pointed out in your response:

@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>In October 2022, Hans Niemann file a $100 billions lawsuit against world chess champions, Magnus Calsen and Hikaru Nakamura, Chess dot com and Play Magnus Group over cheating allegations scandal.
Rubbish. Orders of magnitude are not irrelevant.

@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>In March 2015 Stephen Dillard....In 2006 Alexander Pichuskin...
You list 1 case of a serial murderer and 10 cases of criminality attributed to someone who knew how to play chess, over the last 15 years, as evidence for "more serial killers and criminals amongst chess players than the average population". There are nearly half a million murders each year, which is a small proportion of all criminality. You don't see chess mentioned as a cause in the UN report on world homicide, with good reason - www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/global-study-on-homicide.html

>Unfortunately, I think you got it all wrong.
Everyone, and all the facts, are wrong but you are right?

@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>Chess players are mostly all introverts, but all introverts aren't mostly chess players.
Thinking requires some level of abstraction. People that have higher level abstraction in their jobs, and chess players, need to have a higher level of abstraction.

@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>You cherry picked high-level professions and pretend being an introvert is an unequivocal requirement for those jobs.
It is a but much coming from someone who just cherry picked cases involving chess players in an attempt to indicate that chess players had more than average criminals than the average population.

@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>I have another perspective about introverts; underachievers, moody, exasperating, quitter.
So you've ruled out chess draws and wins then? Actually chess players are more likely to focus until the result is obtained.

@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>Therefore, not socially skilled at all compared to other employees.
Perhaps this is true, yes, but still more socially skilled than you.

@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>If I see chess as a hobby in a CV of a person, I read, NOPE, CAUTIOUS.
Who the hell would want to work for you?

@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>IRL, Introvert is virtually a requirement for jobs with low expectations and very low interactions.
Introverts don't get the credit for the difficult work they do, instead those with higher social skills claim it. But the complex or difficult stuff still has to be done somehow.

@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>We tend to put chess players on a pedestal with their presumably higher IQ, but we're not all fooled.
This is true, not all chess players are intelligent outside their field, nor mathematicians, nor artists, nor politicians, nor presidents, nor royals.

@BeaverB1xQD8 said:
>All you expect from chess players is solving puzzles on a board for entertainment purposes, their virtuosity rarely transposes well elsewhere.
And each topic has its peculiar speciality. If you want someone who can solve a new problem efficiently and effectively, a chess player usually has the patience, and can see as quickly and deeply into it as anyone else.

Most of all, you need to consider this @BeaverB1xQD8 , there are many people around you who are not scared of you in any way whatsoever, and have successfully stood up to much bigger bullies than you:
@BeaverB1xQD8 said in #12:
>I'm sure if I was stuck on a deserted island with a chess player, l'd be the one which survives, or saves us, but I'd probably cooked him with its board and ate him before.
You would want to be careful that I don't make it to that island, because I stand up for chess players against bullies.
@Nomoreusernames

you're totally exalted and triggered
living on an emotional rollercoaster, and going completely psychotic like this is concerning
that's a clear indication of your mental state at moment
you need some time off, but more importantly some medical care

YOU SHOULD, REALLY read the studies in the first post, I'm sure there are clues that point in right direction for recovering your mental health and some peace of mind
that's quite a disturbing demonstration you're putting up

moody...
thank you for brilliantly confirming all this

this is your reward
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K6W57k8ql0
@BeaverB1xQD8 said in #27:
> @Nomoreusernames
> ...emotional rollercoaster, and going completely psychotic like this...indication of your mental state...you need some time off, but more importantly some medical care...right direction for recovering your mental health and some peace of mind...that's quite a disturbing demonstration you're putting up...

Each question I raised about your assertion is valid, and you have let them stand uncontested, and not provided any of the confirming studies you promised. You surely don't, for example, still believe that there are "more serial killers and criminals amongst chess players than the average population".

But instead of thanking me for allowing you to learn something, you have tried to imply that I am "completely psychotic". When you make a ridiculous claim and back it up with rubbish, don't you want people to point that out in a way that helps you to get to the bottom of your error, so you don't end up with a false view tainting all of your understanding and knowledge, and other people you have not tried to coerce yet into buying an obvious fallacy, to falsely believe you to be stupid?

Oh, and about the link to Hikaru, I wouldn't base anything I would want to rely on, off anything Hikaru says. He is not only quite low on the intellect scale (there are around 3 billion people who are better able to understand facts), but he is also known to prolifically spread information already known to be false (in the old days he would be called a "lier"). In fact, if he is speaking of anything other than the next move on a chess board, I would treat it as nonsense.
@Nomoreusernames said in #28:
> Each question ........................................................................................................................................................................ .

[Sorry I skip, so you don't have to re-read yourself. Just in case you feel the urge of torturing yourself further]

Though, I'm glad this keeps you busy today, at least we know you're not wandering the streets with a psychotic mind like this. That's good!

Also, while you're trying hard to seems normal, and it looks very important to you. Unfortunately, underlying your manifesto, it's difficult not to wondering about what exact psychological disorders the person behinds these relentless diatribes must be suffering.

Let me know what spectrum, I'm definitely curious.
I'm insanely introverted. LOL. Thanks for letting me know something I didn't know.

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