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@salmon_rushdie said in #38:

Investigating a potential crime domestically using domestic resources is not a crime, unless you can provide a law stating otherwise - as I can provide the exact law saying that asking a foreign country to investigate your political rival on your behalf is illegal.

"From 1973 until he was elected president in 2016, Donald Trump and his businesses were involved in over 4,000 legal cases in United States federal and state courts, including battles with casino patrons, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes."

So really, the rate of which he's picked up lawsuits in office is nothing special - he's been sued almost more times than anyone on the planet before he even was in office

Appreciate it @noflaps

The Bidens and Clintons also have problems of their own, which they have never been prosecuted or investigated for, and yet there is also evidence of that.... Ahhh

@salmon_rushdie said in #38: > Investigating a potential crime domestically using domestic resources is not a crime, unless you can provide a law stating otherwise - as I can provide the exact law saying that asking a foreign country to investigate your political rival on your behalf is illegal. > > "From 1973 until he was elected president in 2016, Donald Trump and his businesses were involved in over 4,000 legal cases in United States federal and state courts, including battles with casino patrons, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes." > > So really, the rate of which he's picked up lawsuits in office is nothing special - he's been sued almost more times than anyone on the planet before he even was in office Appreciate it @noflaps The Bidens and Clintons also have problems of their own, which they have never been prosecuted or investigated for, and yet there is also evidence of that.... Ahhh

Trump is NOT being crowned "king." He is NOT elected, and will not serve, as an unlimited monarch.

It is important to simply see what is before our very eyes. We can't just imagine what fits our preconceptions.

Fearful fantasy has fueled politics too much lately.

This is not the end of the world. We've SEEN Trump in office before. He stepped down at the end of four years. RIGHT ON TIME.

That's simply .... fact. Not fantasy. Prove me wrong.

Trump is NOT being crowned "king." He is NOT elected, and will not serve, as an unlimited monarch. It is important to simply see what is before our very eyes. We can't just imagine what fits our preconceptions. Fearful fantasy has fueled politics too much lately. This is not the end of the world. We've SEEN Trump in office before. He stepped down at the end of four years. RIGHT ON TIME. That's simply .... fact. Not fantasy. Prove me wrong.

We can agree, I hope, that a mere thumbs-down or scornful laugh or ill-intentioned horsey does NOT "prove anybody wrong."

Only words can do that. And, in some cases, not even words can do it. But at least they can be used to make an attempt.

We can agree, I hope, that a mere thumbs-down or scornful laugh or ill-intentioned horsey does NOT "prove anybody wrong." Only words can do that. And, in some cases, not even words can do it. But at least they can be used to make an attempt.

@Jchess202

1951 was a great year in American Democracy. One of the most important years - something happened that year which ensures that you have nothing to worry about.

@Jchess202 1951 was a great year in American Democracy. One of the most important years - something happened that year which ensures that you have nothing to worry about.

@KDMFan said in #41:

Appreciate it @noflaps

The Bidens and Clintons also have problems of their own, which they have never been prosecuted or investigated for, and yet there is also evidence of that.... Ahhh
Good old whataboutisms

@KDMFan said in #41: > Appreciate it @noflaps > > The Bidens and Clintons also have problems of their own, which they have never been prosecuted or investigated for, and yet there is also evidence of that.... Ahhh Good old whataboutisms

@salmon_rushdie said in #47:

Good old whataboutisms

Questionable stuff found in the WH

@salmon_rushdie said in #47: > Good old whataboutisms Questionable stuff found in the WH

Whatabout ... what?

I value due process. Indeed, in my view due process as a constitutional safeguard is very important.

I think those who are charged with a crime should be able to KNOW PRECISELY what crime they are charged with, so they can ADEQUATELY and realistically plan a defense, and not be convicted unless the jury can sufficiently agree about THAT PARTICULAR CRIME. (Keeping in mind any constitutional requirements for sound conviction).

Justice shouldn't be like a buffet. I would NOT favor the following sort of imagined justice:

Ooooh, juror 1 you can pick crime A and juror 2 you can pick crime B, and juror 3 you can pick crime C (and so forth), and, you know, so long as you agree that there was, like, SOME crime, SOMEHOW, then, ooooh, take him to the dungeon, you know, even if you can't actually and sufficiently agree about just what WHICH crime was committed.

I would not favor that NO MATTER which political party the defendant preferred or what family they came from.

If any disagree, I hope I'll be able to tell why. Please keep in mind that I won't be able to tell from a scornful emoji alone.

Whatabout ... what? I value due process. Indeed, in my view due process as a constitutional safeguard is very important. I think those who are charged with a crime should be able to KNOW PRECISELY what crime they are charged with, so they can ADEQUATELY and realistically plan a defense, and not be convicted unless the jury can sufficiently agree about THAT PARTICULAR CRIME. (Keeping in mind any constitutional requirements for sound conviction). Justice shouldn't be like a buffet. I would NOT favor the following sort of imagined justice: Ooooh, juror 1 you can pick crime A and juror 2 you can pick crime B, and juror 3 you can pick crime C (and so forth), and, you know, so long as you agree that there was, like, SOME crime, SOMEHOW, then, ooooh, take him to the dungeon, you know, even if you can't actually and sufficiently agree about just what WHICH crime was committed. I would not favor that NO MATTER which political party the defendant preferred or what family they came from. If any disagree, I hope I'll be able to tell why. Please keep in mind that I won't be able to tell from a scornful emoji alone.

In the film 'The good, the bad and the ugly' is here the blonde is taking the position of the bad and the ugly in one person. So sad that no one there to take the position of the good.

Also, the election of the blonde as presiding power of the USA means as much as how rotten the human morality is - to rather have a president who promised for more gain/money as choosing a president of integrity. He promised them more earnings/money awakening people's greed that's why he won, because the most people are moved by money. Ratio from 10 people approx. 3:7 are for the shine of coin, no matter what this will cost them. But don't worry there are consequences in every action. Then every US citizen shall pay the price for this election. There will be crying and gnashing of teeth.

In the film 'The good, the bad and the ugly' is here the blonde is taking the position of the bad and the ugly in one person. So sad that no one there to take the position of the good. Also, the election of the blonde as presiding power of the USA means as much as how rotten the human morality is - to rather have a president who promised for more gain/money as choosing a president of integrity. He promised them more earnings/money awakening people's greed that's why he won, because the most people are moved by money. Ratio from 10 people approx. 3:7 are for the shine of coin, no matter what this will cost them. But don't worry there are consequences in every action. Then every US citizen shall pay the price for this election. There will be crying and gnashing of teeth.

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