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The new U.S. nutrition guidelines were released today (January 7, 2026)

@salmon_rushdie said in #20:

@NeuralGnat

Interesting. I may be misinformed however I do see that up to 80 PC may be mislabeled and only contains 10 to 30 PC extra virgin olive oil. Idk...

I'm assuming that most of the olive oil sold in the U.S. is being adulterated. The consumer can't taste the difference between adulterated and pure olive oil, and the temptation for the sellers to make a little extra money is just too good to pass up. Until we get better consumer protection laws in this area, my solution is to simply not buy or consume "olive oil".

In my case, this adulteration problem isn't just a matter of getting a cheaper quality of olive oil. I absolutely refuse to consume any seed oils (soybean, canola, corn, etc.), and if there's ANY chance of olive oil being adulterated with seed oils, then that's a deal breaker for me. I'll just refuse to buy or consume olive oil.

I'm sure a small bit of research could easily reveal what's quality and not.

I don't know what you mean about that comment...

You say you can assume it's adulterated - so research the brands and find the good ones that aren't lol.

Ah, OK, so it's my job to buy all of the brands I can find, send them all to labs for analysis, and pay all of the lab fees? No thanks. :-)

And I guess I'd have to get a lab analysis done every time I bought a bottle of olive oil, lol.

@salmon_rushdie said in #20: > > > > > @NeuralGnat > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. I may be misinformed however I do see that up to 80 PC may be mislabeled and only contains 10 to 30 PC extra virgin olive oil. Idk... > > > > > > > > I'm assuming that most of the olive oil sold in the U.S. *is* being adulterated. The consumer can't taste the difference between adulterated and pure olive oil, and the temptation for the sellers to make a little extra money is just too good to pass up. Until we get better consumer protection laws in this area, my solution is to simply not buy or consume "olive oil". > > > > > > > > In my case, this adulteration problem isn't just a matter of getting a cheaper quality of olive oil. I absolutely refuse to consume any seed oils (soybean, canola, corn, etc.), and if there's *ANY* chance of olive oil being adulterated with seed oils, then that's a deal breaker for me. I'll just refuse to buy or consume olive oil. > > > > > > I'm sure a small bit of research could easily reveal what's quality and not. > > > > I don't know what you mean about that comment... > > You say you can assume it's adulterated - so research the brands and find the good ones that aren't lol. Ah, OK, so it's my job to buy all of the brands I can find, send them all to labs for analysis, and pay all of the lab fees? No thanks. :-) And I guess I'd have to get a lab analysis done every time I bought a bottle of olive oil, lol.

Guidelines are one thing ... reality is another ...

Guidelines are one thing ... reality is another ...

I also noticed that they left the sodium guidelines unchanged; They're still recommending less than 2300 mg of sodium per day for adults.

What did Dr. Phinney have to say about sodium 11 years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KYYnEAYCGk&t=1078s

I also noticed that they left the sodium guidelines unchanged; They're still recommending less than 2300 mg of sodium per day for adults. What did Dr. Phinney have to say about sodium 11 years ago? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KYYnEAYCGk&t=1078s

@NeuralGnat said in #21:

@NeuralGnat

Interesting. I may be misinformed however I do see that up to 80 PC may be mislabeled and only contains 10 to 30 PC extra virgin olive oil. Idk...

I'm assuming that most of the olive oil sold in the U.S. is being adulterated. The consumer can't taste the difference between adulterated and pure olive oil, and the temptation for the sellers to make a little extra money is just too good to pass up. Until we get better consumer protection laws in this area, my solution is to simply not buy or consume "olive oil".

In my case, this adulteration problem isn't just a matter of getting a cheaper quality of olive oil. I absolutely refuse to consume any seed oils (soybean, canola, corn, etc.), and if there's ANY chance of olive oil being adulterated with seed oils, then that's a deal breaker for me. I'll just refuse to buy or consume olive oil.

I'm sure a small bit of research could easily reveal what's quality and not.

I don't know what you mean about that comment...

You say you can assume it's adulterated - so research the brands and find the good ones that aren't lol.

Ah, OK, so it's my job to buy all of the brands I can find, send them all to labs for analysis, and pay all of the lab fees? No thanks. :-)

And I guess I'd have to get a lab analysis done every time I bought a bottle of olive oil, lol.

no dude just use the internet you're not the first person to care about good olive oil

@NeuralGnat said in #21: > > > > > > @NeuralGnat > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. I may be misinformed however I do see that up to 80 PC may be mislabeled and only contains 10 to 30 PC extra virgin olive oil. Idk... > > > > > > > > > > I'm assuming that most of the olive oil sold in the U.S. *is* being adulterated. The consumer can't taste the difference between adulterated and pure olive oil, and the temptation for the sellers to make a little extra money is just too good to pass up. Until we get better consumer protection laws in this area, my solution is to simply not buy or consume "olive oil". > > > > > > > > > > In my case, this adulteration problem isn't just a matter of getting a cheaper quality of olive oil. I absolutely refuse to consume any seed oils (soybean, canola, corn, etc.), and if there's *ANY* chance of olive oil being adulterated with seed oils, then that's a deal breaker for me. I'll just refuse to buy or consume olive oil. > > > > > > > > I'm sure a small bit of research could easily reveal what's quality and not. > > > > > > I don't know what you mean about that comment... > > > > You say you can assume it's adulterated - so research the brands and find the good ones that aren't lol. > > Ah, OK, so it's my job to buy all of the brands I can find, send them all to labs for analysis, and pay all of the lab fees? No thanks. :-) > > And I guess I'd have to get a lab analysis done every time I bought a bottle of olive oil, lol. no dude just use the internet you're not the first person to care about good olive oil

The guidelines are an improvement.

The guidelines are an improvement.

@salmon_rushdie said in #24:

@NeuralGnat

Interesting. I may be misinformed however I do see that up to 80 PC may be mislabeled and only contains 10 to 30 PC extra virgin olive oil. Idk...

I'm assuming that most of the olive oil sold in the U.S. is being adulterated. The consumer can't taste the difference between adulterated and pure olive oil, and the temptation for the sellers to make a little extra money is just too good to pass up. Until we get better consumer protection laws in this area, my solution is to simply not buy or consume "olive oil".

In my case, this adulteration problem isn't just a matter of getting a cheaper quality of olive oil. I absolutely refuse to consume any seed oils (soybean, canola, corn, etc.), and if there's ANY chance of olive oil being adulterated with seed oils, then that's a deal breaker for me. I'll just refuse to buy or consume olive oil.

I'm sure a small bit of research could easily reveal what's quality and not.

I don't know what you mean about that comment...

You say you can assume it's adulterated - so research the brands and find the good ones that aren't lol.

Ah, OK, so it's my job to buy all of the brands I can find, send them all to labs for analysis, and pay all of the lab fees? No thanks. :-)

And I guess I'd have to get a lab analysis done every time I bought a bottle of olive oil, lol.

no dude just use the internet you're not the first person to care about good olive oil

Do they even grow olives in the US?

@salmon_rushdie said in #24: > > > > > > > @NeuralGnat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. I may be misinformed however I do see that up to 80 PC may be mislabeled and only contains 10 to 30 PC extra virgin olive oil. Idk... > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm assuming that most of the olive oil sold in the U.S. *is* being adulterated. The consumer can't taste the difference between adulterated and pure olive oil, and the temptation for the sellers to make a little extra money is just too good to pass up. Until we get better consumer protection laws in this area, my solution is to simply not buy or consume "olive oil". > > > > > > > > > > > > In my case, this adulteration problem isn't just a matter of getting a cheaper quality of olive oil. I absolutely refuse to consume any seed oils (soybean, canola, corn, etc.), and if there's *ANY* chance of olive oil being adulterated with seed oils, then that's a deal breaker for me. I'll just refuse to buy or consume olive oil. > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure a small bit of research could easily reveal what's quality and not. > > > > > > > > I don't know what you mean about that comment... > > > > > > You say you can assume it's adulterated - so research the brands and find the good ones that aren't lol. > > > > Ah, OK, so it's my job to buy all of the brands I can find, send them all to labs for analysis, and pay all of the lab fees? No thanks. :-) > > > > And I guess I'd have to get a lab analysis done every time I bought a bottle of olive oil, lol. > > no dude just use the internet you're not the first person to care about good olive oil Do they even grow olives in the US?
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@the-purpose said in #26:

@NeuralGnat

Interesting. I may be misinformed however I do see that up to 80 PC may be mislabeled and only contains 10 to 30 PC extra virgin olive oil. Idk...

I'm assuming that most of the olive oil sold in the U.S. is being adulterated. The consumer can't taste the difference between adulterated and pure olive oil, and the temptation for the sellers to make a little extra money is just too good to pass up. Until we get better consumer protection laws in this area, my solution is to simply not buy or consume "olive oil".

In my case, this adulteration problem isn't just a matter of getting a cheaper quality of olive oil. I absolutely refuse to consume any seed oils (soybean, canola, corn, etc.), and if there's ANY chance of olive oil being adulterated with seed oils, then that's a deal breaker for me. I'll just refuse to buy or consume olive oil.

I'm sure a small bit of research could easily reveal what's quality and not.

I don't know what you mean about that comment...

You say you can assume it's adulterated - so research the brands and find the good ones that aren't lol.

Ah, OK, so it's my job to buy all of the brands I can find, send them all to labs for analysis, and pay all of the lab fees? No thanks. :-)

And I guess I'd have to get a lab analysis done every time I bought a bottle of olive oil, lol.

no dude just use the internet you're not the first person to care about good olive oil

Do they even grow olives in the US?

Not a ton but that doesn't matter we have brands from all over & I'm sure many greek & italian producers are high quality.

@the-purpose said in #26: > > > > > > > > @NeuralGnat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. I may be misinformed however I do see that up to 80 PC may be mislabeled and only contains 10 to 30 PC extra virgin olive oil. Idk... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm assuming that most of the olive oil sold in the U.S. *is* being adulterated. The consumer can't taste the difference between adulterated and pure olive oil, and the temptation for the sellers to make a little extra money is just too good to pass up. Until we get better consumer protection laws in this area, my solution is to simply not buy or consume "olive oil". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my case, this adulteration problem isn't just a matter of getting a cheaper quality of olive oil. I absolutely refuse to consume any seed oils (soybean, canola, corn, etc.), and if there's *ANY* chance of olive oil being adulterated with seed oils, then that's a deal breaker for me. I'll just refuse to buy or consume olive oil. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure a small bit of research could easily reveal what's quality and not. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what you mean about that comment... > > > > > > > > You say you can assume it's adulterated - so research the brands and find the good ones that aren't lol. > > > > > > Ah, OK, so it's my job to buy all of the brands I can find, send them all to labs for analysis, and pay all of the lab fees? No thanks. :-) > > > > > > And I guess I'd have to get a lab analysis done every time I bought a bottle of olive oil, lol. > > > > no dude just use the internet you're not the first person to care about good olive oil > > Do they even grow olives in the US? Not a ton but that doesn't matter we have brands from all over & I'm sure many greek & italian producers are high quality.

@zealandzen said in #25:

The guidelines are an improvement.

Not according to many cardiologists in the world! But what do I know? lol

@zealandzen said in #25: > The guidelines are an improvement. Not according to many cardiologists in the world! But what do I know? lol

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