Euroepan Super League: The Death of Football, or inevitable new model?

So if you're a football fan, you probably know that 12 teams voted to create a European Super League will have 15 permanent teams, with 5 teams rotating in based on performance. It's meant to be an alternative to the Champions League, with its own revenue stream and will be massively lucrative.

One of the beautiful things about football, especially in Europe, is that leagues are fluid and shaped like a pyramid. If you perform well, you advance to the next tier at the end of the season. If you perform poorly, you get kicked down a level. The higher you go in the pyramid, the more prestigious (and the more lucrative) it is. And if you perform well at the top levels in each country, you can play against other countries' clubs in a European wide competition.

This new league sidesteps all that and has 15 permanent members, some of whom have had less success on the European stage than others who have been left in the cold, and others who have been mediocre in recent years but have large fanbases. The twelve teams that have signed up:

AC Milan
Arsenal
Atletico Madrid
Barcelona
Chelsea
Inter Milan
Juventus
Liverpool
Manchester City
Manchester United
Real Madrid
Tottenham

Notably the fan bases of most of those clubs are vehemently opposed and have issued public statements against the concept. German and French clubs rejected the proposal out of hand, including:

Bayern
Dortmund
PSG

Any one have thoughts on the new league? Plans to watch, or plans to boycott even if your club is playing?

I'm curious to hear what the football fans of lichess have to say.

Football

Soccer.

I think that they want to become a permanent Eurovision contest.
In the which, every X factor, Britain's got talent, Operation Triumph, The Voice, etc, can be projected as sport.
So that art transposes into sport, Magic into science, Life into Universe, Service into the real mission of everyone...



And Justice still remains, separating everyone, from the rest of their respective communities.
So that we don't take for granted, our spare time.
Because in the end, we are engaged in a major factory, which includes Mother Nature as a partner.



Greetings to Greta Thurnberg !

My favorite soccer team is actual at 10th place in germany's first league.
Not bad, not good, so and so.

@SteveWanton Stuttgart back in the Bundesliga is always good thing, but they are an example of what I enjoy about the sport. Though they have been relegated a couple of times in recent years, they have also had some success on the European stage, most notably with a memorable first leg match against Barcelona in the knockout stage not too long ago.

The chance of Stuttgart ever playing in the Super League is effectively nil, but at least with the Champions League every has a shot at qualifying and winning based on performance on the pitch rather than investment bankers crunching the numbers.

so thats 38 games in europe 38 games in the prem plus the league cup and the fa cup , a club could be approacjing 100 games a season if they are succesful ,
its too much , consistency will suffer as team rotation becomes a must do
we also will never again see a team like Nottingham Forest conquer Europe two seasons on the bounce
me im anti this new format even though my club has signed up to it (Liverpool)

steve , its not called soccer its called football , granted aussies and yanks think differently but they are only two countries and most call football football
i forgive the aussies more as their aussie rules football is brilliant

Well we of the Kangaroo Land have the dilemma of four footballs, technically five if you count Super Rugby: soccer, Aussie Rules, Union and League. If we say football it is which code? Thus our use of the word soccer is a pragmatic one.

I can't say that I am any fan of this Super League. My tyke origins would suggest a spirit of rebellion. But at the same time where is the concern for any other club in a League that was already in crisis before Covid? The argument that I have heard that it's up to them to form a League and if you don't like it you don't watch it. That is glib. Their actions effect other clubs. Their TV deal or other media deals for this League? Surely they are creaming this cash for themselves; I haven't heard anything convincing to say that cash will filter down to other clubs, especially clubs below Premier Leagues or equivalent.

Association Football , vegemite , this is where the term soccer comes from (Association)
it was the game of those rich enough to play football for free ,
football was more the workers game ie they got paid to play otherwise they would lose a days wage
so soccer = posh boy public school toffs playing football
football is ordinary folk playing the game
its meaning has changed since but thats its origins