Ahh apparently greenhouse gasses are no problem now, thanks Trump!

Who would've even thought that burning up trillions of tons of stored energy within the earth would affect the atmosphere at all?! Nonsense! Good thing we have 80 year olds who don't give a fuck about the planet or future ruling our country! It would be beautiful if they made a few more billion dollars cause of this!

https://seas.umich.edu/news/epa-repeals-endangerment-finding-greenhouse-gases-seas-experts-available-comment

Who would've even thought that burning up trillions of tons of stored energy within the earth would affect the atmosphere at all?!

This video has helped me picture the scale of what we are currently doing (as a species). It's a short and beautifully (!) illustrated watch, I highly recommend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD9yVca6hHI
Also, we don't have to keep doing that. We can change our ways, don't trust people who tell you it cannot be done. Renewable energy sources are inexpensive, reliable and technologically viable. And they are available right now, being successfully deployed all over the world. That's a growing reality whether one (singular) US administration wants to believe it or not.
Despair leads nowhere, let's rethink how we do things, let's be mindful of sustainability, let's consider the long-term consequences of our actions. In short, let us work together for a future that will be worth it!

@Thalassokrator
I'm not worried in the long term, I really would just like to contribute to the awareness of how rapidly we need to remove and replace this administration - and the power structures that support this kind of reaping of the earth- and reinvest in our bounty of renewable options and fusion:)

@salmon_rushdie said in #3

I'm not worried in the long term,

With all due respect -- are you absolutely insane?

"renewable options and fusion"

• Wind and solar are intermittent and cost more: you have to pay to build them.
  Fusion had a bright future 50 years ago, and 50 years from now it will be the same.
  Nuclear power is proven, reliable and cheap, but countries like Germany got rid of it.
  Meanwhile the European Union is still addicted to Russian oil & gas.

@the-porpoise said ^

@salmon_rushdie said in #3

I'm not worried in the long term,

With all due respect -- are you absolutely insane?

I believe the forces of good always overcome the obstacles of autocracy and control - as they have in the past. The tighter they try and make them - the more fragile it becomes... so when it's looking bleakest is often right before a new dawn(:

@tpr said ^

"renewable options and fusion"

• Wind and solar are intermittent and cost more: you have to pay to build them.
  Fusion had a bright future 50 years ago, and 50 years from now it will be the same.
  Nuclear power is proven, reliable and cheap, but countries like Germany got rid of it.
  Meanwhile the European Union is still addicted to Russian oil & gas.

They're not exactly intermittent, there is such thing as energy storage lol - you can form a very consistent grid out of them - and its not really that costly when implemented at a wide scale - geothermal potential has shot through the roof in the last 10 years with advances in that field as well as tidal potential.... and anyways are you not interested in paying a little more if you had to - to not breath coal smoke and poison the environment? Solar and wind are always increasing their efficiency.

As to fusion - you're probably not up to date there, as it is such a precise technology to control it takes time to develop. My cousin works for commonwealth fusion systems in a combined venture between MIT and the DOE - when he first started his position he was a bit wary whether they would be making any strides, only 2 years ago. Now - he's amazed at the amount of progress they've made in such short span - they are making great leaps towards actual net positive fusion. It's really more or less been a materials science catching up sort of deal - and now they have the available power in electromagnets - shielding - and laser efficiency to make it work. They have a contract for a commercial fusion power plant in Virginia set to break ground around 2028-2030... and according to my cousin he thinks it will be completely viable.

As long as they don't start picking on the Cows again!, they think it's a load of Bull. :D

@salmon_rushdie said ^

@salmon_rushdie said in #3

I believe the forces of good always overcome the obstacles of autocracy and control - as they have in the past.

history is always written by the winners. Why won't the winners present themselves as good boys ? then they'll be put down in history by people as the 'good boys', when maybe they weren't always good?

Yes theres definitely examples of the winners (protagonists, really) of them being good, in fact, i won't argue, most people are good, but some aren't as godly as you may think ! The Roman Empire for example, against the Carthaginians in the Punic Wars. They are portrayed as heroic and un-giving up, but think about all the fit young men they were sending to their deaths .

In the 2nd Punic war for example. At the Battle of Cannae alone, about 20% of Rome's fighting age men were killed (up to 70k), and by the end of the war, 1 in 6 of Rome's adult male population was dead.

Not saying you're wrong but just saying lol
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@arjunsawant said ^

@salmon_rushdie said in #3

I believe the forces of good always overcome the obstacles of autocracy and control - as they have in the past.

history is always written by the winners. Why won't the winners present themselves as good boys ? then they'll be put down in history by people as the 'good boys', when maybe they weren't always good?

Yes theres definitely examples of the winners (protagonists, really) of them being good, in fact, i won't argue, most people are good, but some aren't as godly as you may think ! The Roman Empire for example, against the Carthaginians in the Punic Wars. They are portrayed as heroic and un-giving up, but think about all the fit young men they were sending to their deaths .

In the 2nd Punic war for example. At the Battle of Cannae alone, about 20% of Rome's fighting age men were killed (up to 70k), and by the end of the war, 1 in 6 of Rome's adult male population was dead.

Not saying you're wrong but just saying lol
(Please CONGRATULATE ME, this is like my biggest forum post bro. Yaaay!
small boy tries to get compliments :skull:)

In some circumstances and in societal evolution - war was inevitable - it doesn't have to be that way and while we're not there yet - we are beginning to become more peaceful. I think rationality takes hold when people witness the destructive capability we now harness - hopefully it doesn't take a WWIII, maybe it will. I hope it doesn't. I think star trek had an actually believable timeline (humanities enlightenment & technological spark only occurred post nuclear-war). I may not live to see the future I dream of, but I think I will, and I don't think it will be all as bad as things are made up to be at this current moment.

Also in the context of those societies - they had a more visceral understanding of death itself - and more intimate relationship with their mythos which granted them a foundation to believe in. In my own experience of death which I have brushed against many times - it is not to be feared. We have lost much of our storytelling and mythological culture and intimate relationship with nature which reaffirms these principals - but many of us are also regaining it at the same time.