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Why Can People Cheat On Puzzles And Why There Isn't Puzzle Leaderboards?

@Saty26 said ^

Even if they magically couldn't cheat, a puzzles leaderboard is useless as the system can still be rigged by doing the hardest mate in two or one puzzles which are the easiest stuff you'll ever see.

I did the hardest mate in 2 puzzle and I received only 1-5 points!

Yep.... Now just patiently grind a 1000 of them, and your rating goes up and up and up....

No because at a moment you won't receive any points (when you will be ~2600)

Nah my friend practiced it when he was on lichess and his peak was like 2630 and he lowkey got like 1-2 points every puzzle even then.

@Saty26 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/yhdLScgV) > > > > Even if they magically couldn't cheat, a puzzles leaderboard is useless as the system can still be rigged by doing the hardest mate in two or one puzzles which are the easiest stuff you'll ever see. > > > > > > I did the hardest mate in 2 puzzle and I received only 1-5 points! > > > > Yep.... Now just patiently grind a 1000 of them, and your rating goes up and up and up.... > > No because at a moment you won't receive any points (when you will be ~2600) Nah my friend practiced it when he was on lichess and his peak was like 2630 and he lowkey got like 1-2 points every puzzle even then.

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Puzzles should not be a competition. The goal of improving is not to increase your puzzle rating, but to get better at chess and maybe improve your actual rating. If puzzles were a competition and had a leaderboard, it would really defeat the real point of puzzles.

![Screenshot 2026-07-08 8.12.20 PM.png](https://image.lichess1.org/display?op=noop&path=i6B7RtCtE1EA.png&sig=710e4695e1f231b600fc572df6920119c6772c2e) Puzzles should not be a competition. The goal of improving is not to increase your puzzle rating, but to get better at chess and maybe improve your actual rating. If puzzles were a competition and had a leaderboard, it would really defeat the real point of puzzles.

"I have been told you akways get at least 1 point"

Your sources are (fortunately?) incorrect.

"I have been told you akways get at least 1 point" Your sources are (fortunately?) incorrect.

@Royals_Fan22

Puzzles should not be a competition. The goal of improving is not to increase your puzzle rating, but to get better at chess and maybe improve your actual rating. If puzzles were a competition and had a leaderboard, it would really defeat the real point of puzzles.

exactly

@Royals_Fan22 > Puzzles should not be a competition. The goal of improving is not to increase your puzzle rating, but to get better at chess and maybe improve your actual rating. If puzzles were a competition and had a leaderboard, it would really defeat the real point of puzzles. exactly