Hi,
As title says my proposal is to not get tournament points when opponent does not move (still to gain or lose rating points though), because not so rarely players can get lucky and being on fire after just 1 minute had passed of tournament because their opponents did not move for various reasons (bad connection, etc.). It s unfair advantage to win or be placed well in tournament because of this.
If this topic had already been discussed previously, I apologise, but even in that case for those who are running lichess to reconsider this rule would be welcomed.
Best regards,
north10
And what about the time wasted for the player?
It is only 30 seconds, and you would still get rating points.
In a hypothetical scenario, if your suggestion is taken to top level over the board chess, imagine no one came to face Ian Nepomniachtchi in Candidates, he gets all the rating points but 0 in the crosstable
People who enter a tournament have a certain obligation to pay attention to the start of their games. Just like in real life.
Well 30 seconds is a lot of even 2 such occurences happen, and what if people purposefully start avoiding top players?
Tournament is 60 minutes and above, and avoiding top players would still lead to losing rating points purposefully doing so is unlikely.
And this is for online lichess, not for real life proposal.
And even to me it happened that I cannot move because of bad connection, so it is mostly that case for majority of those who do not move.
You can't use likely/unlikely wherever you like. I say it is very likely in club tournaments that club members are instructed to abandon games against the top boards of opponent teams, as they were going to lose anyways.
I can also claim that you are very unlikely to not gain rating points and tournament points by abandonment. So is every other player likely to get such free points, and thus it is likely no one gets harmed/is treated unfairly.
Who is to say that 30 seconds is very little time? Tournament lengths can even go to 15 minutes, 60 is not the bottom-line. Every second counts, and if I have to again wait to get paired easily 1.5 minutes is lost. Heck, in hyperbullet tournaments matches last 30 seconds.
@north10 your internet connection is niether Lichess's liability nor your opponent's. Why should your opponent also lose time because of your internet? If it is only a matter of 30 seconds of internet disconnection then you shouldn't feel being unfairly treated.
And the situation I mentioned can be exactly replicated in online tournaments if your suggestion is taken. So thanks, but nope, I don't agree, and it is 'likely' many others won't too.
Lichess tournaments are 60 minutes and above, on other hand time needed for first move can be lowered to say 15 seconds. And here online on lichesess if you abandon game you are losing rating ponts, you cannot replicate RL situation here.
I understand that bullet players may be against this, but in rapid or classical tournaments it is sad when you see player on fire with bullet number of games (in rapid) because their opponents did not move.