Rating for some fresh players is too high, solving that leads to shame cone checkmark issues

I read the faq(now), I know the topic has been on the forum as well (a year ago at least, I know it for reasons below, but), but

I loaded lichess app, and discovered that it has 1500 entry rating by default for fresh players, as I played on chess com already, I knew it is too high for me, mine on chess is 120 in bitz, which I'm interested in. So I was looking for an option in application (didn't play a single game at this point) and found none ways to ajust it as entry point rating, I was thinking okay, I did google further - what the matter, I did discover that lowest raiting here is 600, okay it disheartening enough, but okay okay, then did look further, maybe I can set that 600 one as a starting point, still better that nothing, found few threads with simiilar complains and the only resolutin in those were - to play and loose.

So no way to adjust, okay, not great, but okay so be it.

I played, and sure enough did lose games, then maybe after almost done plummeting to 600, I decided to speedup a little, and lost few games on purpose, it were few out of 20 or so.

Then I noticed a message that I break TOS this way, sanbaging something, okay, after reading it, I didn't do that anymore, have no intencion to break the rules, if I know them.

Now I notice that I have that violate tos checkmark, okay, I'm sorry, I didn't knew, and I had no ill intent, just an attempt to solve a problem ad the end of loosing path I had, a problem which had no solutions with more direct means, like to choose beginner, intermediate or advanced rating before in the application.

But okay, a mark is there, and I realize my wrongdoings, guilty, okay shame cone on me.

But then it feels it has deeper implicaton and again no hints or obivious ways to resolve the issue the shame cone creates.
It does seems that now I'm paired only with people with shamecone and funny enough all the guys are rated 1000+, I mean yeah, it becomes useless to me now then.

Okay I'm looking everywhere again, what are the roads to resolve the current issue, interestingly enough account faq turns to be quite useless and probably hints that there is no way out, and current account is beyond salvaging?

Some evil feedback loop here, I guess it's a destiny of noobs in a pro place, I guess, after reading message (which probably wasn't exactly when it was sent) I lost all my games honestly, die trying to win, it just my rating is aroung a 100-200, and at this point I'm not even sure that few games I lost on purose are the reason, maybe system thinks I did it on purpose when I didn't, lol.

So is there a good way to resolve the mess for me, or there is none?

> I lost all my games honestly, die trying to win,

Yeah sure, that is why there are 9 games out of 29 resigned after 2-4 moves in your history. Sandbagged even in correspondence, I would really like to hear an excuse for that but I doubt it will make your situation any better.

> what are the roads to resolve the current issue,

lichess.org/appeal.

Thanks for the link, I'll try it, however expectations are below floor.

As for the rest:

@Deadban said in #2:
> are 9 games out of 29 resigned after 2-4 moves in your history.

Usually I do not resign(edit: but yes this time it was more than I remember, so your observations are correct).

Edit: Tl;Dr whine on stuff.

If if there is a chance to win(I maybe did that few times out of 300 games on chess, so it not a regular behavior, usually by missing some stuff), and I check regularly if my jugment is correct with comp at post analysis stage, when I do resign, and usually it is correct jugement, but honestly do not remember that moment exactly but usually(had to do similar thing on chess to ride from 600 to 100 on chess to have a chance for wins) I do not use this way to loose a game, I may played few at random out of flustration, or testing stuff, but nothing more.

What there is to appeal? This or another way I did indeed break rules in few games.
Considering how easy it is to find an opponent at 100-300 on chess(and thay are legit as I win sometimes), despite that lichess seems a better app in more than one aspect, I guess good chunk of noobs is on chess com, and I'm doomed to loose in many games anyway (I barely hold my head above water on chess) so any 600+ is a dead sentence for me anyway, but I'm fine to try and suck for 10 games straigth and go back to my noob brothers to have some chances. I would like to have this as an opportunity

As for giving up, I usually do not do that, but I have seen a video when a 2000+ did talk(mention) that when you see the thing is lost it may be disrepectfull to not giving up, as you imply the other side won't see a solution and path to victory. I guess it less applicable for low level players, I'm in some disagreement and I think it is robbing a chance from an opponent to taste sweet victory, which is my initial stance(I get my victories, they fully enjoy theirs), but that person is a figure of respect for me, as superior player, so I have to admit I'm a bit ambivalent here, and somtimes I may slip in my stubborness, maybe I did that too, especially in curcumstances I already described, but I do not remember to have such an intent to lose this way.(edit: yep yep it clearly happened)

Considering I rarely can use queen advantage, I guess it absolutely legit for me to resign once I loose one(not always, but in many cases, depends on how the other side plays and the situation). So even if I'm not a GM on my level I can judge my chances more or less acurately, even if I do not see the whole thing to the end.

You did made me curious, I probably will check and see all my games(edit: yep it happened more than I remember), and see what was going on in my head at that time, maybe it refreshes some of my memory, maybe you even correct, few more few more sins for the same cause, Even if I do not remember, but I was overwhelmed with calculations and defeats, so may lag on memory, maybe a few more than I do remember, maybe before I remembered how to lose or whatever, a bit more sins to existing ones.

As for correspondence, it actually funny story, it is on a second tab and I kept seen some notifications(some awaits something picture and such) and I mistook it as if like they were adressed to me personaly, maybe by a player I played just recently, I'm inclined to respond to kind intent, so okay maybe they need it or what, I can help, plus I had this 1500 something wrong rating and they had seen I'm bad at fast ones(as one whom I played noticed), okay, anyway I did agree, as I percieved it at that time.

Then I realised it like bulletin board for people to create games and announce it and look for some, and I just mistook it. I relised it was absolutley not what I need or want, and I explained it to opponents, and exited those games. I did not play corrspondence games in the past, and partially I did try it out of curiosity as well, but relised that it makes no sense to me, as it useless to give me more time to think and in addition to that I was wrong with my assumptions from get go.

A man can dream, and let's imagine, the thing is resolved and I get back my chances to figth against 600, and even maybe sometimes to win, cuz I hope there are some more lucky noobs amonth them, ones like me, who have to suffer under 600 points ranking system, which won't be changed for any of us, but that is ok.

But, will my 99% loosing games count as another round of cheating of some way? Because for all those reasons and difficulties I do face, I do not expect there to be that many players of my level. Is it telling me not to not come until (a dream start rigth here) I'll be able to score 600?

On chess I stand about 10% chances, against 200 something, considering my anticipation of lesser percentage even those players here, 1% win ratio does not look that unrealistic, and maybe it even optimistic number, will I get that mark again?

Is it that positive feedback loop I will not be able to break until I play as 600 one?

Do I have to play eat all my pieces and chase my king for next 10 moves?

I have many questions, lol, sad face.jpg I guess I have to read the forum in the future to find the answers to those, as there is no faq on that, as far as I have seen it, eh, or maybe some addition to faq on etiquete?(edit: or I missed it again, read some, but can't claim all of it) I mean it feels as a necessity considering harsh stances on accounts, resign not resign, perma cone, any wrong move and one ends under bad apple category, without warnings and chances to regret.(edit: seems there are chances, butkeep it for history reasons)

@Deadban said in #2:
> Yeah sure, that is why there are 9 games out of 29 resigned after 2-4 moves in your history

Okay, watched games and see what you mean, yes, it a little bit more that I remember, I would substract few out of those 9(or so) as 50/50 cases, wrong move on a defence, or white offence setup broken prematurely, I do not know what to do in the case, but yeah it more cases than I remembered. That is 100% correct.

But yeah, there is more at the start than I remembered, and I could have put more efforts, but 100% fixed that after I finaly read that inbox message, but not sure when it was.

Used your link, will see how it pans out, anyway thanks for help.