Hi all,
I used lichess games to try to answer the question "when should you resign?" once you start losing in a game (when is the game beyond repair?). I used lichess games with Stockfish evaluations and looked at our chances of coming back and winning the game for different amounts of negative Stockfish evaluations: https://web.chessdigits.com/articles/when-should-you-resign
I also looked at the effect of time control and opponent rating...
Hope you enjoy--if you have good ideas for future articles on Chess Digits or if you'd like to contribute, please let me know!
Hi all,
I used lichess games to try to answer the question "when should you resign?" once you start losing in a game (when is the game beyond repair?). I used lichess games with Stockfish evaluations and looked at our chances of coming back and winning the game for different amounts of negative Stockfish evaluations: https://web.chessdigits.com/articles/when-should-you-resign
I also looked at the effect of time control and opponent rating...
Hope you enjoy--if you have good ideas for future articles on Chess Digits or if you'd like to contribute, please let me know!
It is a very very interesting article. I thank you for your efforts. Try posting it on reddit if possible. It is indeed incredible that in a significant 8%-12% of games to come back despite being a queen or more down.
It is a very very interesting article. I thank you for your efforts. Try posting it on reddit if possible. It is indeed incredible that in a significant 8%-12% of games to come back despite being a queen or more down.
I suggest that you should not resign. You're opponent may blunder and draw/lose. Resigning means "Defeat when You could have won". Scan the position for moves before resigning. THERE MAY BE A DEFENSE YOU DID NO SEE
You're surrendering when you could call draw or even won!! Even in a one move checkmate, hope that your opponent may miss it or miss click or something... Even in a "Queen-and-king-versus-lone-king" position, you can still hope for a stale mate. I understood it when I was playing a game, resigning never helped you, but the OPPONENT.
P.S. - Some people resign before even moving thinking they will lose. DON'T DO THAT. It means you don't believe in yourself.
MY QUOTE -- " Resign is a word that is NOT in my dictionary"
[Hope people found this helpful :D)
I suggest that you should not resign. You're opponent may blunder and draw/lose. Resigning means "Defeat when You could have won". Scan the position for moves before resigning. *THERE MAY BE A DEFENSE YOU DID NO SEE*
You're surrendering when you could call draw or even won!! Even in a one move checkmate, hope that your opponent may miss it or miss click or something... Even in a "Queen-and-king-versus-lone-king" position, you can still hope for a stale mate. I understood it when I was playing a game, resigning never helped you, but the OPPONENT.
P.S. - Some people resign before even moving thinking they will lose. DON'T DO THAT. It means you don't believe in yourself.
MY QUOTE -- " Resign is a word that is NOT in my dictionary"
[Hope people found this helpful :D)
Interesing. However, imo you should also define the goal of not resigning. What do we achieve by winning a game that was totally lost, eg. in which we blundered a Queen? Let's say we win 1/8 of such games. That makes 7 games waste of time, even total boredom (or agony for sore losers) playing a lost game, in order to get one point out of 8 games. Even the won game can be boring and you just happen to win on time. No need to die from boredom, better to start another game.
Interesing. However, imo you should also define the goal of not resigning. What do we achieve by winning a game that was totally lost, eg. in which we blundered a Queen? Let's say we win 1/8 of such games. That makes 7 games waste of time, even total boredom (or agony for sore losers) playing a lost game, in order to get one point out of 8 games. Even the won game can be boring and you just happen to win on time. No need to die from boredom, better to start another game.
bruh i blundered a queen and a knight once and the opponent disconnected for some reason when they could have mated me in 3 moves
bruh i blundered a queen and a knight once and the opponent disconnected for some reason when they could have mated me in 3 moves
Resign when you are no longer enjoying the game.
Some people love it if they can swindle a victory and for them it may make sense to keep playing even if they will still lose 90% of the rest of the games. I prefer to play when there are chances on each side rather than the decision riding on a blunder, time out or disconnection and would rather start a new game than play out an almost foregone conclusion.
It's a matter of taste and anyone who thinks there is a 'right answer' is delusional.
Resign when you are no longer enjoying the game.
Some people love it if they can swindle a victory and for them it may make sense to keep playing even if they will still lose 90% of the rest of the games. I prefer to play when there are chances on each side rather than the decision riding on a blunder, time out or disconnection and would rather start a new game than play out an almost foregone conclusion.
It's a matter of taste and anyone who thinks there is a 'right answer' is delusional.
#2 @euphoriousvictory thanks a lot for the comment. I did post on reddit. And yes I was surprised too to find that people win this often when the score is extremely negative...
#4 @ProposeBurgers I wholeheartedly agree with you 100%, that's a good way to think about it
#2 @euphoriousvictory thanks a lot for the comment. I did post on reddit. And yes I was surprised too to find that people win this often when the score is extremely negative...
#4 @ProposeBurgers I wholeheartedly agree with you 100%, that's a good way to think about it
@Patrizsche
The article is really interesting and good food for thought! One stat that I'm curious about that I wish I could read about is how the graph changes in time controls with increment vs non increment. Maybe a follow-up article? :D
@Patrizsche
The article is really interesting and good food for thought! One stat that I'm curious about that I wish I could read about is how the graph changes in time controls with increment vs non increment. Maybe a follow-up article? :D
@Patrizsche "Different people feel differently about resigning" - Fischer
There really sin't a solid answer to the question. In my opinion, if you want to play, keep playing. If not, you can resign.
The statistics were quite fascinating.
All the best
@Patrizsche "Different people feel differently about resigning" - Fischer
There really sin't a solid answer to the question. In my opinion, if you want to play, keep playing. If not, you can resign.
The statistics were quite fascinating.
All the best
I think fisher conept is right because in the grandmasters if they blunder a knight is the early game they resign but in lower levels they so yeah.
I think fisher conept is right because in the grandmasters if they blunder a knight is the early game they resign but in lower levels they so yeah.