Seriously if u check this game in analysis mode, u will be susprised on how much laugh the lichess offers.Not only i was the faster player during the game but how i spent 2 sec to move my King away from the check zone when i had this specific plan in my mind,to use the lightsquare diagonal?? I cant think for a better explanation other than there is obviously a time boost when there is a ranking gap as of in this game that favors the 2k player.No worries,i play for fun but for those that take the online chess seriously its better to reconsider it
It's called premove and you can enable it in lichess.org/account/preferences/game-behavior
Premoving is the act of making your move on your opponent's turn. You can cancel it or choose a different move before your opponent moves, but once he moves, your premove is immediately executed if it's legal (even if you were trying to capture a piece that your opponent moved away so be careful), taking zero time off your clock.
There are three strategies for playing against a premoving opponent:
1. Play fast. When you spend 0.5+ seconds on every move, it's easy to premove against you.
2. Exploit the premoves. When your opponent has 2 seconds left, you can be certain that he'll be premoving nearly every move. With this in mind, you can go on a hunt to capture his pieces. Or push a pawn to promotion. Even if you capture a protected piece, as long as he didn't specifically premove a recapture (which would lose time if your move isn't the capture he's expecting) or a check, you can just move the capturing piece away on the next move.
3. Render the premoves illegal: if the clocks are so low that neither player is likely to be able to checkmate the other (or if you're close to getting checkmated no matter what), it can be worth it to sacrifice a rook for a single unexpected check.
Your opponent's last 8 moves were premoves. Positionally, they were bad moves - he drove your king into a much better position and missed a tactic that would have won your bishop. But their sole purpose was to keep your king in check (making your moves more predictable to him, allowing for easier premoves) and waste your time, which they did.
Premoving is the act of making your move on your opponent's turn. You can cancel it or choose a different move before your opponent moves, but once he moves, your premove is immediately executed if it's legal (even if you were trying to capture a piece that your opponent moved away so be careful), taking zero time off your clock.
There are three strategies for playing against a premoving opponent:
1. Play fast. When you spend 0.5+ seconds on every move, it's easy to premove against you.
2. Exploit the premoves. When your opponent has 2 seconds left, you can be certain that he'll be premoving nearly every move. With this in mind, you can go on a hunt to capture his pieces. Or push a pawn to promotion. Even if you capture a protected piece, as long as he didn't specifically premove a recapture (which would lose time if your move isn't the capture he's expecting) or a check, you can just move the capturing piece away on the next move.
3. Render the premoves illegal: if the clocks are so low that neither player is likely to be able to checkmate the other (or if you're close to getting checkmated no matter what), it can be worth it to sacrifice a rook for a single unexpected check.
Your opponent's last 8 moves were premoves. Positionally, they were bad moves - he drove your king into a much better position and missed a tactic that would have won your bishop. But their sole purpose was to keep your king in check (making your moves more predictable to him, allowing for easier premoves) and waste your time, which they did.
Nice premoves lecture but actually if i didnt know all these u were mentioned i wouldnt be faster than him in most of this game.If u checked my game u realized that there is a difference of 20 sec between me and him in which I'm the faster player.What he does at the end its not premoving.He just mousedrugging the rook with touching any other piece,simply by filling the checking squares cuz u miss here sth very important.The lichess doesnt have any multipremove function to do what u mentioned in ur post.We just talkin about a simple premove that costs u time the moment u have to activate it again
As of my bishop i dont know what ur talkin about but all i know is the guy has 6 blunders against 3 of mine so i would suggest instead of timeboosting the stronger player in ranking difference(the 2k player here for example),its better to timeboost the player with the lesser mistakes if u want to timeboost at all
How i know about timeboosting here?I move my king the square next to him,I'm not mousedragging at long distances and i follow a clear pattern in my mind.I'm not fooling around,aint knowing what to do.For me its quite suspicious how he managed to cover the 20 sec difference in an equal position,then i had a -2 advantage according to stockfish which moved to -6 at the end.The whole thing is ridiculous but as i wrote it doesnt bother me.just saying the things straight
As of my bishop i dont know what ur talkin about but all i know is the guy has 6 blunders against 3 of mine so i would suggest instead of timeboosting the stronger player in ranking difference(the 2k player here for example),its better to timeboost the player with the lesser mistakes if u want to timeboost at all
How i know about timeboosting here?I move my king the square next to him,I'm not mousedragging at long distances and i follow a clear pattern in my mind.I'm not fooling around,aint knowing what to do.For me its quite suspicious how he managed to cover the 20 sec difference in an equal position,then i had a -2 advantage according to stockfish which moved to -6 at the end.The whole thing is ridiculous but as i wrote it doesnt bother me.just saying the things straight
what you call time boost is premove, there is no such things as time boost
premove as an explanation to this is kinda weak u know unless u play in chess.com under the multipremove system when actually u have to draw a pattern that saves u alot of time.The guy here just covered a 20 sec difference using single premoves to checking?Oh Com'on now hah
Multipremove is unnecessary and I find it only slows me down on chess.com.
You premoved 5 times, and none of them mattered. Your opponent premoved all but one move after he got down to 4 seconds, while you didn't speed up at all. See for yourself how it works for the other guy: www.twitch.tv/jannleecrazyhouse/clip/FamousEntertainingGoldfishPogChamp
You premoved 5 times, and none of them mattered. Your opponent premoved all but one move after he got down to 4 seconds, while you didn't speed up at all. See for yourself how it works for the other guy: www.twitch.tv/jannleecrazyhouse/clip/FamousEntertainingGoldfishPogChamp
He's blatantly premoving at the end - watch how he moves he rook to squares where he thinks he's going to give check. The 1 second you are using to move physically he is setting up the next premove. Its part and parcel of 1+0 bullet, just like losing on time a queen up.
lol hilarious what ur really responding here.Its like u say that the 2k players know all the tricks of premoving and other stuff cuz I was born yesterday not knowing how to premove my pieces or when i had to premove.The only true difference between a 2k player and lets say a 1600 is only the chess knowledge buddy.All the players know how to premove and when simply by watching videos or reading books like the One minute to mate by Naka.I didnt open this thread to learn about premoving.I never asked to learn that too
I premoved too in this game,actually faster than him,I was the better player,with a better position,I blundered less than him (3 vs 6)my game was solid for a bullet and suddenly u tell me i dont know how to premove lol
Whats really is the problem here is that i suggested the timeboost definition and u forced to defend the lichess premoval system,ignoring completely a better explanation about what really happened and that is LAGGING.Nobody here asked me about lagging which is quite suspicious cuz if u ignore the lagging only the timeboost theory remains.Get it now?
@CM piscatorox i had premoves too at the end but a couple of my moves cost me 2 sec and not 1 sec as u just said and this is why i'm questioning it.U cant explain how he covered the 20 sec difference when i was the faster player and premoved too unless its lagging but i never mentioned the lagging in my first post to have some fun with the responses hah
I premoved too in this game,actually faster than him,I was the better player,with a better position,I blundered less than him (3 vs 6)my game was solid for a bullet and suddenly u tell me i dont know how to premove lol
Whats really is the problem here is that i suggested the timeboost definition and u forced to defend the lichess premoval system,ignoring completely a better explanation about what really happened and that is LAGGING.Nobody here asked me about lagging which is quite suspicious cuz if u ignore the lagging only the timeboost theory remains.Get it now?
@CM piscatorox i had premoves too at the end but a couple of my moves cost me 2 sec and not 1 sec as u just said and this is why i'm questioning it.U cant explain how he covered the 20 sec difference when i was the faster player and premoved too unless its lagging but i never mentioned the lagging in my first post to have some fun with the responses hah
Well the options seem to be either
(a) he premoved efficiently or your connection was slow
or
(b) in the lichess source code there is some feature that gives a preferential time treatment to higher ranked players.
I know which seems more likely.
(a) he premoved efficiently or your connection was slow
or
(b) in the lichess source code there is some feature that gives a preferential time treatment to higher ranked players.
I know which seems more likely.
@CM piscatorox
Now we're talkin.lets say this is best response so far in this thread
and if we talk about lagging, i must had the lagging issue at the last 10,15 sec probably cuz i was flying over the board in the rest of this game,gained a whole of +20 sec hah
Now we're talkin.lets say this is best response so far in this thread
and if we talk about lagging, i must had the lagging issue at the last 10,15 sec probably cuz i was flying over the board in the rest of this game,gained a whole of +20 sec hah
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