LOL if they gave me the extra time they can obviously tell I'm hungry =P
wow, that is some real artificial problem presented in this thread... time add feature is good and should be as it is now ;) if guy is sadistic/friendly/(any other reason he is giving time) just use the time he gave to You. If position is like -56.2 or #3 then probably best is just to resign, but if position is -3 or -2 (hypotheticaly minor piece or two pawns down) and guy gives You time use it, You may surprise him and yourself as well.
If guy giving You time in lost or worse position is irritating You then block him, You won't get paired with him - simple as that.
I have yet to see a single response that explains why it is "valid" to permit my opponent to have control over my time without my consent.
Who cares what people think should be done with the time? Why debate what the intentions were." Just use the time", who knows, I might benefit does not justify the practice. Coaches, students.. good stuff, etc.
I 100% agree to have the option is beneficial for players who are in agreement. Otherwise, in settings, make an option to disable the feature. (Other sites at the very least, require a player to "request" +time before it is given). Where else on the internet, on any gaming site, can a player freely add unlimited time to an opponents clock without both players agreement?
In it's present form the feature is simply badly presented and will be updated. Watch
"I have yet to see a single response that explains why it is "valid" to permit my opponent to have control over my time without my consent."
Because, as has been explained to you a few times already, it harms you in no way and can be seen as just a courtesy. I have added time when someone has had connection issues. If you don't want to use the time, don't. If you feel like resigning because you would have run out of time.
It is a good feature and hurts you in no way and you are making a mountain out of less than a molehill.
Yet another stickler-magnetic issue.
@WeirdAl writes:
Because, as has been explained to you a few times already, it harms you in no way and can be seen as just a courtesy.
How is it a "courtesy" to +time at the start of games?
It is disrespect, rude.
As several players here have said in this topic... they +time opponents because they want to win by checkmate and not time.
This is disrespectful. I did not ask for the time. It is intentionally distracting (never knowing how much time is left, as opponent is free to +time at any moment.) Don't give me this BS, it doesn't "harm" in anyway. Players have the ability to disable chat. Opponents can just as easily claim "friendly chat" does not harm anyone, which is BS.
Adding time without agreement "can be" used as a means to distract or be rude. It should not be made available to begin with.
I seek a 10 minute game. One time after 2 moves, I watch as my clock reached 20 minutes. Tell me this is not abusive?
If it is such a good practice, is not open to abuse, what other chess site, any gaming site for that matter, that implements a clock permits an opponent to freely add unlimited time to their opponent WITHOUT their agreement?
I'll answer that: NONE
I duly understand the feature as presented is viewed as a courtesy by most everybody, but there exists a minority who view it differently. Why make it available as such when an easy solution is to create the option of disabling it in settings?
mdinnerspace, for example this site has the similar behaviour: http://www.playelephant.com/. Adding time doesn't require opponent consent but it is not unlimited.
On many occasions when my game reaches <30 seconds, I am thinking about how to best use my remaining time. I agreed to and started a game with x amount of time. I am practicing my skills to complete a game within that time control.
"Suddenly" my opponent starts to +time.
I did not ask for it.
I did not want it.
I have every expectation to play the game as started.
That my opponent has "control" over my time is certainly not a "courtesy" in my book.
A player requests more time to finish the game.
He clicks on the request button. The opponent clicks on his button and agrees to +time.
Done deal. Good stuff. A courtesy extended.
But for one player to have "control" over their opponents time, without said players consent, to willy-nilly add time violates the spirit of chess, that of an agreed time control to start a game.
A game starts. The clock begins. The opponent "removes his KBpawn and says, As a "courtesy" I'll play with a handicap, no harm done. Who would complain? What's the big deal? It's to your advantage.
Chess is as much a game about time as material. Look at the popularity of bullet chess. Adding time is the same as your opponent giving time odds, a handicap. Did you ask for it? You signed up for a game of x time. Your opponent can change that time after the game begins with no input from yourself with the +time feature. If someone removes a pawn to start the game, or anytime later, would you all not proclaim "why does my opponent have this ability"?
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