Ok I did make some mistakes and blunders ( some deliberate) but I won the game. My opponent lost 42 points and I gained a measly miserly 4 points ??why?
nearly all of my last few winning games have been awarded 6 or less points at this rate it will take years to reach anywhere.
Ok I did make some mistakes and blunders ( some deliberate) but I won the game. My opponent lost 42 points and I gained a measly miserly 4 points ??why?
nearly all of my last few winning games have been awarded 6 or less points at this rate it will take years to reach anywhere.
Your opponent was obviously still provisionally rated, and thus had high volatility. Once a rating is established, as yours is, then changes are typically in the 0 to 8 points per game range, depending on opponent and other details.
Your opponent was obviously still provisionally rated, and thus had high volatility. Once a rating is established, as yours is, then changes are typically in the 0 to 8 points per game range, depending on opponent and other details.
In particular, your rating deviation is 45.50, i.e. almost the lowest possible (the floor is 45); your opponent's is 141.52 now, it might have been even a bit higher when the update was calculated.
In particular, your rating deviation is 45.50, i.e. almost the lowest possible (the floor is 45); your opponent's is 141.52 now, it might have been even a bit higher when the update was calculated.
thanks for responding. Can you tell me what rating deviation is and how it effects my rating points please
thanks for responding. Can you tell me what rating deviation is and how it effects my rating points please
@InstinctiveArcher
https://lichess.org/faq#provisional
Click your rating to see your rating deviation.
ah ha ! thats where its all hiding. ta very muchley
ah ha ! thats where its all hiding. ta very muchley
rating deviation is statistical thing standard deviation. Which tells (actually not quite so but accurate enough) that after assuming rating error is normally distributed - which is very likely - then with about 66% probability your true rating is you current rating +- rating deviation.
Also opponent high deviation affected the amount points you get as it was possible the he lot stronger or weaker so the change on the other player will also be smaller.
rating deviation is statistical thing standard deviation. Which tells (actually not quite so but accurate enough) that after assuming rating error is normally distributed - which is very likely - then with about 66% probability your true rating is you current rating +- rating deviation.
Also opponent high deviation affected the amount points you get as it was possible the he lot stronger or weaker so the change on the other player will also be smaller.
crikey Petri999 you lost me on the second sentence lol.
Statistics were never my strong point ....
crikey Petri999 you lost me on the second sentence lol.
Statistics were never my strong point ....
@InstinctiveArcher said ^
nearly all of my last few winning games have been awarded 6 or less points at this rate it will take years to reach anywhere.
That attitude ... what you hope to reach within less than "years" is in fact completely out of reach as long as your rating matches your true skill level. And since your deviation is close to minimal, since you play many games regularly, it means your rating is accurate and indeed matches your true skill level.
And even with minimal rating deviation, your rating can shift a lot if you play many sessions of many games on a daily basis.
@InstinctiveArcher said [^](/forum/redirect/post/50J7YMRd)
> nearly all of my last few winning games have been awarded 6 or less points at this rate it will take years to reach anywhere.
That attitude ... what you hope to reach within less than "years" is in fact completely out of reach as long as your rating matches your true skill level. And since your deviation is close to minimal, since you play many games regularly, it means your rating is accurate and indeed matches your true skill level.
And even with minimal rating deviation, your rating can shift a lot if you play many sessions of many games on a daily basis.
I think a common misunderstanding is to see rating points as Coin that you collect in your treasure chest by taking them from your opponent, and that are stolen from you when you lose.
But that's not how it works. Better to understand rating as a thermometer reading - with the difference that it's not measuring body temperature but chess skill.
If you take a thermometer from your warm pocket and stick in in the snow, it needs to adjust quickly to the new reality. But as long as the temperature stays around the same there will only be minor changes.
So, "will it take years to reach anywhere"? That totally depends on how quickly your chess skills improve.
I think a common misunderstanding is to see rating points as Coin that you collect in your treasure chest by taking them from your opponent, and that are stolen from you when you lose.
But that's not how it works. Better to understand rating as a thermometer reading - with the difference that it's not measuring body temperature but chess skill.
If you take a thermometer from your warm pocket and stick in in the snow, it needs to adjust quickly to the new reality. But as long as the temperature stays around the same there will only be minor changes.
So, "will it take years to reach anywhere"? That totally depends on how quickly your chess skills improve.