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Finally I get it how to mate with bish and knight

yall mating with knights and bishops while i am still accidentally stalemating with 8 queens
@WinOr10PushUps

Jeremy Silman in his book Complete Endgame Course, talks about not teaching this mating net because it is really not worth burning calories learning it and spending the 3 or more hours because it has never even come up in any of his games during his whole career or most of his circle of chess playing friends as well.

I have to concur because in almost 50 years of playing I've never encountered it myself and would suggest that students of the game instead focus on 3 or more hours of Puzzle Storm or especially Puzzle Streak, but there are others like @Darksouls or @Alientcp that might know better than me.

However, I always thought this would make for a nice challenge to make money and hustle chumps for pocket litter in the park, by offering them either side of the coin. Either mate me with only a Bishop and Knight against a lone King in 5 minutes or I will attempt to do it to you. The fact that even GM's can't often do this mating pattern, insures you a win rate off the chain. Your thoughts?
@Sacmaniac Huh? Yes, i know the mate, and yes, its not worth studying it.

The only 2 times i encountered was when i underpromoted on purpose just to practice it.
And @WinOr10PushUps or better i should say, Mr. Olympia :P The one that you do should learn is the one with both bishops
@Sacmaniac I agree with you that beginners shouldn't learn this, because it is rare and irrelevant for them, but I disagree with you that you shouldn't learn it around 2000. Imo the reason why this endgame never appears is, BECAUSE the winning side is so scared of it. Knowing this mate allows new winning opportunities.

Two years ago I learned that for 3 hours and still failed. I never tried again. Now with higher rating and a short video I got it and tried and learned it in just 20 minutes. I am very happy now about it :)
Want to know something funny?

I literally NEVER got a knight and bishop mate in a game ( maybe once) and never practiced it. Then I get a prize money tournament game where I enter a such position. I then proceeded to follow my opponents king as he guided himself into the corner for me. I've never been able to do this again in practice. This just shows that true genius ( or remarkable assistance by the opponent) comes out only when you are under high pressure.
@puzzlesandpuzzles

I am sorry to burst your bubble, but your conclusion of being a genius under high pressure is wrong. You mated him, because he walked there by himself.

I experienced that against Stockfish 1, where I needed only 9 moves for the mate. This was incredibly easy compared to mating stockfish 8:

@WinOr10PushUps Good. Because thats an endgame that does happen, still not frequently, but it actually does.

"Imo the reason why this endgame never appears is, BECAUSE the winning side is so scared of it" I doubt it. i mean, i know its winning, so if i had the option to go for it if i dont have anything else going, i would. But it has never happened. The closest it has gone its when i either have a bishop or a knight + a pawn. But why do you want to complicate things? Just get a queen, or a rook at the very least.

You dont see that ending at gm level either. They are not scared of it. Its just that when you have an advantage, you usually have a pawn that will promote.

I had to underpromote in purpose in order to happen. I have been playing chess for 25 years or so already. It just doesnt happen.

Maybe learn the principle of the triangle, because it may be useful in some situations, but to waste time keeping the knife sharp by practicing it frequently, nah.

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