Chess is a game of Luck. Change my mind.

As I said in #19
@Parni_2022 said in #19:

Chess is not a game of luck. You need to have skill to win the game. Okay, sometimes people might accidently make blunders or people might lose time, but chess is not a game of luck.

You can make a blunder and your opponent doesn't notice it, it could be because he/she might have another plan of winning, or he/she doesn't really care about winning.

say you make a blunder and your opponent doesn't notice and then you win material because the piece he could have taken had threats to do that. that's lucky for you. you didn't make him blunder. i wouldn't say chess is a game of luck on the whole, but there is luck in it at times.

@pretzelattack1 said in #22:

say you make a blunder and your opponent doesn't notice and then you win material because the piece he could have taken had threats to do that. that's lucky for you. you didn't make him blunder. i wouldn't say chess is a game of luck on the whole, but there is luck in it at times.

That’s not luck in my opinion. That’s just a poor decision by your opponent. It wasn’t chance based. It was completely in the control of your opponent and he botched it. No roll of the dice involved.

yes but you didn't make him make that decision. i remember once Nigel Short had a winning position against a good player, and played his rook where it could be taken by his opponent's knight. Short doesn't make those kind of oversights often, maybe just the once. i can't attribute that to his opponent's skill.

@pretzelattack1 said in #24:

yes but you didn't make him make that decision. i remember once Nigel Short had a winning position against a good player, and played his rook where it could be taken by his opponent's knight. Short doesn't make those kind of oversights often, maybe just the once. i can't attribute that to his opponent's skill.

Your example does not count it is biased, Short has always been 2nd. place, Belfort 1979, his chances for WC and even at FIDE, vice-president ...

Winning the lost game can make a believer out of you. - :]

@ Skittle-Head

heard that!

@Artem-Kozirev

hey, don't sell him Short!

There's an element of luck in the sense that the only way to win is for your opponent to make a mistake, and that's not something you directly control.