Books on Evaluating Positions

"Simple Chess: New Algebraic Edition" by Michael Stean

sorry mate
i don't wanna be harsh
but you don't have a clue what you are talking about

maybe you mean that not everyone can (learn to) do it perfectly, on super GM/engine level, that i agree with
but really there isn't any natural knack you need to be able of understanding chess on a deeper level or at least to learn it

how do you come to your conclusion?
i really didn't want to insult you, but i don't agree at all

@jesgluckner It's like with anything. You can learn how to do something, but unless you have a natural talent for it then no matter what you do you won't be good at it.

With any sport, genetics plays a huge part. For height, how much testerone your body produces and how easily your body can create muscle mass, and like I said about fighting and "nastiness". Mike Tyson is a great example. Yes, at the beginning he was dedicated to boxing and training but he wouldn't be as good as he was if it wasn't for his genetics.

And chess requires intelligence (pattern recognition, memory, processing data etc), which genetics also plays a huge part in.

TL;DR You either have it or you don't.

yes genetics do play a role
but you can't trace back everything to genetics, that not very scientific
you know the polgar sisters?
their success is due to their father wanting to test his hypothesis, that not everything is due to genetics
you see how it planed out
all three of the sisters admited that susan polgar became the best of them because she put in the most work out of the three

his conclusion is something to the lines of "give me a healthy child and i will make him a master at anything"

but basically i agree
everyone has a natural limit on what they are capable of doing and what not
but with age the bar gets lower and lower
learning especially at a young age keeps the bar it it's maximum
and therefor, evaluating chess positions, which in the most cases isn't the single most hard thing in the world, is something most people can learn

I love the topic !! These are the chess books I have read most . I've never been rated 15 or 18 something when my rating was soaring a total of nearly 1000 points from Provisional 1255 in the year 1983 to over 2200 in 1988 (NM) & then to 2251 in the year 1989 , I usually recommend three books but ... Book One You don't need to study this whole book Modern Chess Strategy by Ludek Pachman ... Book Two ... Play Like A Grandmaster by Alexander Kotov ... Book Three ... Three Steps to Chess Mastery by Alexsi Suetin ( This book helped me alot !! ) ... Book Four ... Endgame Strategy by Mikhail Sherevesky ( Many late middlegames here with unbelievable advice on how to compose your thoughts ) & Book Five Positional Decision Making In Chess by Boris Gelfand (2015) ... Book Six ... A hardbound collection of complete games that are well-annotated ... Book Six ... 125 Selected games by Vasilly Smyslov would cap off the recommendations .

@jesgluckner hmm, yes, and what was Laszlo Polgar's occupations? Oh, that's right, an educational psychologist (something that requires intelligence, so not like daddy polgar was stupid, hmm?) But they're literally the result of an experiment, so they're more of a very rare exception.

dude please
you can go through every top player
at the very most they were 12 when they start playing
some are already near gm strenght at that time
magnus started at 5 and was coached by his father who is around 2000 fide
nakamura at 7 being trained by his FM stepdad
caruana already had a NM coach when he was 6

very rare i see for top players to be guided from professional aidence from a young age
yes yes, i see

nakamura has said many times on his stream that he fellt that other junior players were more talented than him and that he probably succeded because of harder or more efficient training

if you don't mind we can just stop here for the sake of not spaming this thread anymore, as i don't think we will come to an agreement

@jesgluckner I'm not saying hard work isn't important, but there's only so much hard work can accomplish. Most of it is because of innate talent, and you can't learn talent.

@TGBM yes
but basicaly everyone has that talent
it's just a matter of achieving it
as you said laszlo polgar is a smart man
he himself believes any healthy child can become a GM under the right circumstances

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