Carlsen ekes out another Topsy Turvy Titled Arena Victory

TLDR I think it's good to try to put yourself in others' shoes

@alex_beneath That's an illogical conclusion at best and an immoral conclusion at worst.

I'll rephrase your logic: 'Nobody should ally themselves with any groups outside of their own because they can fend for themselves. To do so if to validate them as inferior.'

I'm not the most informed person to speak to these issues, true. I have a relationship with the queer community, and yeah, when I mentioned this thing to queer friends they were universally put-off by chess players just throwing around the term transvestite. Small sample size, but it doesn't take a lot of research to see that many many others share this view. These people who care exist - I'm not making this up for social points.

Again, not demonizing anybody for saying things without malice. I'm pointing out what I (and others!) believe to be a problem. There could be nobody on this thread who identifies as queer, woman, disabled, transgender, etc. If someone said anything homophobic, sexist, ableist, transphobic, etc., I'd hope someone would point that out too. Hell, if I said or did anything marginalizing I'd welcome the feedback. Another point, I hope that we live in a world where it's not entirely the responsibility of any marginalized community to fight all their own battles.

Bringing it back to chess: chess as a whole is pretty male-dominated. I think we can all agree on that. I'd venture to say that because of this alone, we surely have blind spots. If you don't care about any of this and just want to play chess, don't engage with this topic, nobody's making you :).

I don't apologize for continuing to point out something I believe is super-relevant to the chess community and 'polluting' this thread with anything other than 'rofl Carlsen is ridiculous', and I don't really care about anybody's fragility over topics around marginalization.

The only one fragile here is the guy writing 10 paragraphs about being offended on somebody else's behalf.

It's time to stop now, do we really need to call moderators to keep threads on topic?
You're not even being under attack yet you're raising such a ruckus on behalf of some lgbt friends who don't even play chess themselves.
LEAVE POLITICS OUT THE DOOR.

This is why no one wants to cater to even the smallest of your demands anymore. BECAUSE it's not genuine. It's just taking offense.

Ok you took offense. Do you have anything to say about the chess? No? Just that it's male dominated? Then do something to get more women in that doesn't require shitting on the chess community, you know -- big reveal: we don't like being shat on and portrayed as un-inclusive.

A-hole.

I find it hard to believe I’ve said anything warranted being called an a-hole lol.
I’m a chess player too, friend, and don’t think I’m talking about politics in any sense of the word.. I’m talking about something I care about that I think is relevant to chess (and to the article if we’re gonna nitpick). I view pointing out problems I see with respect to chess as a form of love for chess and a desire to improve things. I said I think we’ve got some blind spots and some work to do (together! I’m a part of this!) on inclusivity. Not the same as denigrating and negatively portraying all chess people. And yes, some of the sentiments I’m seeing here are pretty alarming and make me kind of sad because I’ve spent my a large part of my life hanging out with chess people and mostly thought we’re really awesome in a lot of ways (though that’s probably an overreaction bc the sample of people responding to an ‘SJW’ type of statement on any online forum is pretty skewed lol). I’m not fragile man I just care about this stuff.

@bak000za > Does something noninclusive. Gets angry for being portrayed as non-inclusive. Hmm.

> Do we really need to call moderators to keep threads on topic?
"Mods! Mods!" *wee wooh wee wooh* "Oh mods, please help me. Someone is talking about something relating to the chess community that's not directly related to Carlsen's siiiccckk plays. What will we do?"

I have just checked, and lo and behold, it's actually not registered yet. Hurry, go and register:

LGBTTQQIAAPchess.com

And then we can all be happy and enjoy chess again.

@cincigoose @Tomondo can you answer #68 question, please?

@gbtami "Transvestite" used to refer to cross-dressing but as a mental illness and still carries those connotations, so "cross-dressing" is now considered the respectful term.

@Tomondo by whom? Can you realize that lichess is a GLOBAL site? People play chess here from all over the world. From all countries, from all cultures. Some of them may consider the world "transvestite" unrespectful. Others are not. You can't filter blog posts for all word to be respectful to everyone playing here at lichess. This is nonsense!
Suggesting what words not to use by others is a mental illness IMO leading to absurd things like this: bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=906119

Uh oh, @gbtami , I can't seem to understand you. Over in my part of the globe the phrase "filter blog posts" means that you have a crush on your sister. That's pretty gross. Does it mean the same thing in your part of the globe? I hate how the English changes so much around the world. :'( :'( :'(

>"Suggesting what words not to use by others is a mental illness"
Uh oh, @gbtami , I can't seem to understand you. Over in my part of the globe the phrase "mental illness" means that you have something going on in your brain that causes serious disorder in your behaviour or thinking rather than meaning you politely encourage people to be respectful. Crazy how different the English language is across the globe.

Uh oh, @Tomondo , I can't seem to understand you. I enjoy one of the grates transvestite ever lived instead! :)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Mc-NYPHaQ