@Attacking_Chess98 said in #20:
> im sad Chess.com has adds but Lichess.org does NOT SO U MUST LOVE LICHESS
First of all, it depends on the user. If they like chesscom, so be it. Why are you so frustrated? And you can't say "You *must love lichess" to anybody, meaning don't use force.

Secondly, if they have ads, we have ad-blockers.

@MercySoul said in #21:
> First of all, it depends on the user. If they like chesscom, so be it. Why are you so frustrated? And you can't say "You *must love lichess" to anybody, meaning don't use force.
>
> Secondly, if they have ads, we have ad-blockers.
So what That's My choice Lichess is better for me and I don't Treat people Too harshly So U don't bee My mother

This was never about the features of both sites. It was about which engine is better when faced with limited computing power. Lichess won both games, so the lichess engine is superior. That is my only point.

Agreed with #23. I have four games which prove that the lichess.org playing engine at max permitted strength has eventually overpowered it's chess.com counterpart.

Two of the four games were played last month, showing that the chess.com engine was dominant at that timw:



The other two played today show that the tables have turned, as shown in the study linked in #1:



Note: All four games were played with the same resources on both sides, the anon player being the chess com playing engine. The Fair Play page was checked before setting up these four games, and hence, these games are compliant with the Terms of Service of both websites. Both websites were open on the same browser and the corresponding moves copy-pasted (basically this is engine assistance, but the whole point of the games are to make those two engines play one another) for all these four games.

Coming to the title, it could have probably included the word 'AI', but the first post explained it well enough to be an appropriate title. This is not another of those "which of the two websites is better" threads.

@BurraAbhishek said in #24:
> Coming to the title, it could have probably included the word 'AI', but the first post explained it well enough to be an appropriate title. This is not another of those "which of the two websites is better" threads.
This thread is in the game analysis section. If I wanted to talk about which site is better, I would have posted the thread in the general chess discussion thread.

#1
The 8 levels of Stockfish on Lichess correspond to using the following skill, movetimes, and depths per Lichess code.

LVL_SKILL = [-9, -5, -1, 3, 7, 11, 16, 20]
LVL_MOVETIMES = [50, 100, 150, 200, 300, 400, 500, 1000]
LVL_DEPTHS = [5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 8, 13, 22]

So Stockfish level 8, is setting the skill level SF parameter to 20, and giving 'go depth 22' etc. It is Stockfish 14; I assume with the NNUE on since that is the default when running Stockfish on the command line.

See my post: lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/stockfish-is-weakened?page=4#33
which also has code pointers.

Do you know what the chess .com parameters are? I'm assuming it uses Stockfish from things I've read on the net.

@celinofj said in #6:
> ches.com is a lie, they just try to steal your money, try to send a subliminar message to you, like: Or you pay, or you do not evolve!
>
> Fk them, lichess is the best!

I think it's because you have spelled it incorrectly that ches.com (with one s) "tries to steal your money".

Anyways, Everyone loves Lichess! We are even discussing on the best chess website, open-source, without any ads on the right. Lichess is perfect, no bugs (except minor ones), and it's far better than chess.com where you have to pay to do everything, just like EA.

I think we all forgot about AlphaZero....

well you don't have to pay

you can play with no membership