1 tenth of a second per move

@sergiozonzo

Since you don’t seem to understand this from a logical perspective, I’m going to say something from a practical perspective:

You are ONE player. One player who has decided to complain about premoves. I’ve seen others being confused about premoves in the forum, but once they got an explanation they were fine with it.

So, do you think the Lichess developers are going to change the way premoves work or even remove them because ONE player decided to complain about them? Among hundreds of thousands of people who play here every day and are completely fine with premoves? Getting mad over premoves in the forum is useless, it will change nothing.

To you, I suggest either playing games with longer initial time or playing with an increment. I rarely ever see players premoving in 5+0 or longer.

To everyone else, I suggest just leaving this thread. You tried to explain it to him, you tried to argue, you did your best, but to no avail. Ultimately, nothing will come out of this. So it’s best just to drop it, unless you like arguments :)

@ProfDrHack
I don't know if the problem is the pre-moves or something
I know that I lost games in which my opponent still had 10 seconds to play and I still had 40 seconds
but he was able to move so fast that in 10 seconds he made 20 moves and despite having only the king to move he won
and I've been told that making 2 moves per second depends on the pre moves, that's why I'm talking about it

but if the reason for this speed is another, tell me what it is, and I'll talk about that reason

go see one of my last games
move 71
I have 2.7 seconds left for him 4 tenths
at the end of the game he made 2 moves in 4 tenths
a move in two tenths
who make 5 moves per second
as if I continue swimming normal and he pulls out his fins in the last 10 meters
of course he will always win,
obvious that in sports
in any sport this is an illegal practice
everywhere but not here

He. Does. Not. Have. To. Play. At. The. Same. Speed. All. Game.

You're not even complaining about premoves anymore, just that your opponent was faster than you, even though earlier in the game he was 1% slower.

Play with an increment if you'd rather have lost that game by elementary checkmate instead of time.

@PurpleInferno
I'm not complaining
I say it is scandalous to allow this discriminatory behavior
nobody actually makes 30 moves in 10 seconds
it is naturally impossible
it's only possible with a system whose name I don't know,
tell me how to do it

It's called a mouse. Hover the cursor over the piece you want to move. Press and hold the left mouse button. Move the cursor to the square you want to move the piece to. Release the button. You can do all but the last step on your opponent's turn even without premove as long as he's slow enough.

Premove wasn't working for some reason in my first few bullet games here. I could still make 50 moves in 30 seconds and trust me, I'm not even close to being the fastest player out there.

if you show me that you make 50 moves in 30 seconds I'll pay you for pizza

Both players start with the same time and can do premoves. This is not discriminatory. The vast majority of players can do 30 moves in 10 seconds : watch the longest game of ultrabullet you can find : there are way more than 30 moves by both sides.
We can't give you more time because you have a disability : it would be discriminatory.

For instance this game lichess.org/4emD35H4/black#157 lasted 79 moves in a 15 second game. White still had 1.1 seconds ! That give us an average of 0,176 seconds per move.

ei @classicalMpk

when I have never asked for more time, copy my words on the subject here

I asked that the possibility be established for the players, if they want, to exclude the pre-moves from the game, or to accept them according to the common agreement

I said that allowing two players to do the pre-moves when many players can't actually do it is discriminatory

it would be like saying that paraplegics have the same chance of running as normal

just because he is given a track to run and a defined time

reflect on your words